UKTeX V88 #41 Friday 9 December 1988 PostScript TFMs PostScript support UKTeX V88 #40 Re: PostScript Metrics DVI to Postscript (Pascal version) Mode_def's -- where are they? Possible TeX support by Rutherford Author names in BibTeX Re: UKTeX V88 #40 email and credit card numbers (TUG renewals etc.) LaTeX for the Atari ST New SB(08)TEX.ARC file in archive Editor Peter Abbott I have discovered a 'bug' in the new mail distribution software used with #38 onwards. My apologies to those users who have 'missed' issues but the 'bug' has now been cured. Latest TeXhax in the Archive is #106 Latest TeXmag in the Archive is V2N5 --------------------------------- Received: from UKACRL by UK.AC.RL.IB (Mailer X1.25) with BSMTP id 4552; Sat, 03 Dec 88 04:04:05 GM Received: from YMIR.BITNET (DHOSEK) by UKACRL.BITNET (Mailer X1.25) with BSMTP id 2600; Sat, 03 Dec 88 04:04:05 Date: Fri, 2 Dec 88 19:59 PST Message-id: <0091CBF5B74ABE0020400141@YMIR.BITNET> From: Don Hosek Subject: PostScript TFMs To: Abbottp@UK.AC.ASTON.MAIL X-VMS-To: IN%"Abbottp@Mail.Aston.Ac.Uk" From TeXhax over the summer, I got the impression that Elwell's PostScript TFMs are the definitive versions to use. This was an opinion voiced rather strongly by Pierre Mackay. I believe Stephan Bechtolsheim (of dvi2ps fame) also supports the use of Elwell's metrics -dh --------------------------------- Date: 02 Dec 88 22:42:46 gmt From: G.Toal @ uk.ac.edinburgh Subject: PostScript support To: info-tex@uk.ac.aston.mail Message-ID: <02 Dec 88 22:42:46 gmt 050578@EMAS-A> Thanks to Sebastian for pointing out the Adobe TFM problem - just in the nick of time as I was about to fetch lots of them... My question: which of the many dvi to postscript translators copes with: 1) Mixed postscript fonts and cmr bitmap fonts [needed for maths] 2) Including graphics images easily 3) Modifying text generated into boxes - e.g. by greying the background, rotating the box, reversing out or whatever? 4) Includes a 'psplain' alternative to 'plain' base file which will handle the postscript fonts in a more natural way? Has anyone already looked at all the drivers to compare these or any other points you can think of? [or even produced the 'tick-chart' beloved of computer magazine reviews?] Graham. (A man with more questions than answers at the moment... Life can be like that sometimes.) --------------------------------- From: Clark Adrian Date: Fri, 2 Dec 88 17:50:41 GMT To: ABBOTTP@uk.ac.ASTON In-Reply-To: ABBOTTP@ASTON's message of 2-DEC-1988 17:08:46 GMT <0000B693_0006391C.0091CBDDD50DAFA0$17_1@UK.AC.ASTON> Subject: UKTeX V88 #40 From: David Lloyd Subject: Problem with double indices To: Peter Abbott I found something odd when I tried to use an expression like $$x^{i^{2}}$$ A vertical bar grows out of the top of the 2. Could this be a problem with the font? No. I just tried this out using VMS TeX 2.94 and Unix TeX 2.92 and the output is fine with both, using standard CM fonts at 10pt and 12pt. Adrian F. Clark JANET: alien@uk.ac.essex.ese ARPA: alien%uk.ac.essex.ese@nss.cs.ucl.ac.uk BITNET: alien%uk.ac.essex.ese@ac.uk Smail: Dept. of Electronic Systems Engineering, Essex University, Wivenhoe Park, Colchester, Essex C04 3SQ, U. K. Phone: (+44) 206-872432 (direct) --------------------------------- From: Clark Adrian Date: Fri, 2 Dec 88 17:57:38 GMT To: ABBOTTP@uk.ac.ASTON In-Reply-To: ABBOTTP@ASTON's message of 2-DEC-1988 17:08:46 GMT <0000B693_0006391C.0091CBDDD50DAFA0$17_1@UK.AC.ASTON> Subject: Re: PostScript Metrics I wasn't surprised that Sebastian obtained different results from his test page of `Moby Dick' when using TeX, troff, etc. Since TeX doesn't calculate its line breaks until the entire page has been read in, we might expect it to get different (and hopefully _better_) results than the other programs. Having said that, I'm a little concerned about the assorted PostScript TFMs. I'm no PostScript guru, but let's settle on a standard set and stick to it! With respect to the possible re-encoding problem, I'd like to ask people whether we're TeX users or PostScript users. If we're the former, we'd use the TeX collating sequence; if the latter, we'd twiddle the plain (and lplain and amstex and HPtex and...) formats. Ur, I'm a TeX user. Adrian F. Clark JANET: alien@uk.ac.essex.ese ARPA: alien%uk.ac.essex.ese@nss.cs.ucl.ac.uk BITNET: alien%uk.ac.essex.ese@ac.uk Smail: Dept. of Electronic Systems Engineering, Essex University, Wivenhoe Park, Colchester, Essex C04 3SQ, U. K. Phone: (+44) 206-872432 (direct) --------------------------------- DATE: 02 Dec 88 17:15:08 GMT FROM: d.c.lindsey @ uk.ac.aberdeen TO: info-tex @ uk.ac.aston MESSAGE-ID: <02.Dec.88_17-14-57_d.c.lindsey@uk.ac.aberdeen> SUBJECT: DVI to Postscript (Pascal version) Does anyone know of the existence/whereabouts of a WEB/Pascal version of a dvi to Postscript filter? I ask this because the C compiler on our mainframe (identity undisclosed) is the pits unlike its Pascal compatriot. Dave Lindsey Janet address: d.c.lindsey@uk.ac.aberdeen --------------------------------- Date: 3-DEC-1988 15:43:10 GMT From: STEPHEN@UK.AC.OXFORD.VAX To: INFO-TEX@UK.AC.ASTON Dear TeXies, I'm trying to make use of the \lr switch described in The TeXBook (p.257) using the following code: \newdimen\fullhsize \fullhsize=6.5in \hsize=3.2in \def\fullline{\hbox to \fullhsize} \def\makeheadline {\vbox to 0pt{\vskip-22.5pt \fullline{\vbox to8.5pt{}\the\headline}\vss} \nointerlineskip} \def\makefootline {\baselineskip=24pt \fullline{\the\footline}} \let\lr=L \newbox\leftcolumn \output={\if L\lr \global\setbox\leftcolumn=\columnbox \global\let\lr=R \else \doubleformat \global\let\lr=L\fi \ifnum\outputpenalty>-20000 \else\dosupereject\fi} \def\doubleformat{\shipout\vbox{\makeheadline \fullline{\box\leftcolumn\hfil\columnbox} \makefootline} \advancepageno} \def\columnbox{\leftline{\pagebody}} \supereject \if R\lr \null\vfill\eject\fi It runs okay *but* in my output a capital L appears at the start of the text. (I've copied the code down onto a Mac and used TeXtures and had the same result.) What's going wrong? stephen miller oxford university computing service stephen@uk.ac.oxford.vax (janet) --------------------------------- Date: 03 Dec 88 23:40:10 gmt From: G.Toal @ uk.ac.edinburgh Subject: Mode_def's -- where are they? To: info-tex@uk.ac.aston.mail cc: texhax%score.stanford.edu@uk.ac.ukc Message-ID: <03 Dec 88 23:40:10 gmt 050612@EMAS-A> I'm currently looking for a mode_def for an AST Turbolaser, which -- from the output -- I suspect is a write-white engine. The salesman suggested it was a diabolo engine !??? [I didn't know they made lasers?] Anyway, while searching the UK Aston archive for ANY mode defs, I realised that there doesn't appear to be a single reference collection. If there is, could someone tell me (and the net) where to look? If there isn't, I'll take on the job of collecting them by mail and passing on the unique ones to Peter Abbott at Aston. US readers could slave a copy from there once done. [Peter, could you create a [PUBLIC.MFFILES.MODEDEFS] please?] Graham. (gtoal@uk.ac.ed -- see your mail guru for a routing, but try REPLY first) +++Editor - OK created the empty subdirectory +++ --------------------------------- Date: 5-DEC-1988 10:51:14 GMT From: PHYHJR@UK.AC.HW.VAXA To: uktex@UK.AC.ASTON.MAIL Subject: Possible TeX support by Rutherford The following article may be of interest. It appeared in the Oct-Dec issue of the Engineering Computing Newsletter distributed by the Rutherford Appleton Labaratory. `TEX SUPPORT At present, the "standard" text processing software supplied with EASE- supported workstations is based on AT & T's Doucumenter's Workbench (troff etc.) There are, of course other systems available. One of these is TEX with the associated LATEX. As well as the consideration of WYSIWYG document systems (see July-Sept issue of the newsletter) there is a desire to see whether there are enough people in the Community requiring TEX to add this to the list of supported software. I would be grateful if those who would like to see this happen contact me (preferably by email - ret@uk.ac.rl.ib) so that the size of the community can be estimated. Eric Thomas (Informatics Department)' Harvey Richardson Physics Department, Heriot-Watt University. --------------------------------- Received: from uk.ac.oxford.prg.client22 (client22) by uk.ac.ox.prg (4.12/prgv.29) id AA29828; Mon, 5 Dec 88 14:55:31 gmt Received: by uk.ac.oxford.prg.client22 (3.2/SMI3.0prgS1) id AA14590; Mon, 5 Dec 88 14:58:12 GMT Date: Mon, 5 Dec 88 14:58:12 GMT From: jg@uk.ac.oxford.prg Message-Id: <8812051458.AA14590@uk.ac.oxford.prg.client22> To: info-tex@aston Subject: Author names in BibTeX I have a problem with author names in BibTeX. Can anyone help me? To get multiple authors in BibTeX, you say "Joe Bloggs and John Smith", for example. The book "Structure and Interpretation of Computer Programs" by Abelson and Sussman claims to be written by "Harold Abelson and Gerald Jay Sussman with Julie Sussman" which really confuses BibTeX. If I leave the "with" as is, BibTeX thinks the book has two authors, the second one having "von" part "with", and surname "Julie Sussman", and so the key becomes "[AwJS85]". If I replace the "with" with an "and", BibTeX produces the key "[ASS85]", which is fine, but the authors get quoted with two "and"'s in the bibliography (naturally), which is still not what I want. What I would like is to get the names of the authors in the bibliography to come out as Harold Abelson and Gerald~Jay Sussman, with Julie Sussman (or something similar); I'm not particularly bothered about the key, as long as it's not "[AwJS85]". How do I get BibTeX to act as if the "with" were an "and", short of hand-editing the .bbl and .aux files? Ta. Jeremy Gibbons --------------------------------- Date: Mon, 5 Dec 88 8:27:08 GMT From: Sebastian Rahtz To: ABBOTTP@uk.ac.aston Subject: Re: UKTeX V88 #40 > > 1. Has anyone else had trouble with POOLFILE.BOO from the aston > archives. Do you think that it is possible that my version of > deboo could unpack all the boo files except this one ok? I recently FTPed all of the DOSTEX stuff, deboo'ed it, unarced it, took away the number I first thought of etc, and curiously enough it all ran OK. So the poolfile isn't irredemiably damaged > > 3. Is there another archive where I could download these files via > kermit or something like that ( the name Lancaster comes up in > some documentation) log in interactively to LANCS.VAX1 as Kermit, password Kermit, and download a deboo source and recompile it yourself. There are C and Pascal versions > > 2. Can you tell me how to get hold of the latest tex distribution > suitable for running on a Sun-4 under SunOS 4.0 WITHOUT pascal ? > I have Tex 2.1 running on a Sun-3, but my colleagues have not bought > their Sun in time to be eligible for the free 4.0 pascal. if you get a recent Unix TeX distribution (the one Peter Abbott will make for you is recent enough), it assumes you will do a C compilation anyway. You need a slightly MORE recent one if you need all the texware and metafont ware with web2c changefiles, but no doubt the basics will make you happy for now. As if anyone with a Sun 4 needs to be made happier... if you are happy with TeX 2.1, just get [.web2c]*.* from Aston, and follow the READMEs Sebastian Rahtz, Computer Science, Southampton --------------------------------- Received: from memex by brahma.cs.hw.ac.uk; Tue, 6 Dec 88 10:05:55 GMT Received: by doc.memex.co.uk (5.52/memex_11) id AA18878; Mon, 5 Dec 88 16:20:12 GMT Date: Mon, 5 Dec 88 16:20:12 GMT From: peter@uk.co.memex (Peter Ilieve) Message-Id: <8812051620.AA18878@doc.memex.co.uk> To: info-tex@uk.ac.aston Subject: email and credit card numbers (TUG renewals etc.) In #40 Dave Osbourne was enthusing about paying for TUG things by quoting his credit card number in an email message. Before anyone else does this I would urge them to consider how porous the email system is. How many machines, about which you know nothing at all, will your message go through? There was something in a recent comp.risks digest complaining about ACM using a tear-out postcard for credit card ordering, this is much the same. I am glad that TUG will accept credit card payment, I have used this myself, but only by letter. Peter Ilieve peter@memex.co.uk --------------------------------- Received: from axion.bt.co.uk by kestrel.Ukc.AC.UK via PSS (UKC CAMEL FTP) id aa09847; 7 Dec 88 10:16 GMT Received: from boxwood by zaphod.axion.bt.co.uk via Ist SMTP channel id aa18467; 7 Dec 88 10:13 WET To: info-tex@uk.ac.aston cc: dbrennan@uk.co.bt.axion Subject: LaTeX for the Atari ST Date: Wed, 07 Dec 88 10:13:49 GMT From: dbrennan@uk.co.bt.axion Message-ID: <8812071013.aa18467@zaphod.axion.bt.co.uk> I was wondering if a version of LaTeX exists for the Atari ST and if so how I can get hold of it. I need to be able to preview on the Atari mono screen and I'd like to be able to print rough copies on an Epson compatible 9 pin printer. Any information gratefully received.... Regards, Dave Brennan. British Telecom Research Laboratories phone: +44 473 645690 Systems & Software Engineering Division email: dbrennan@axion.bt.co.uk Martlesham Heath room: 20, B68 IPSWICH IP5 7RE group: RT3133 ENGLAND --------------------------------- Date: 5-DEC-1988 17:53:43 GMT From: PAT@UK.AC.LEEDS.ICF.LEVA To: INFO-TEX@UK.AC.ASTON 24/11/88 Dear Peter Abbott, Do know of, or have, a means of getting Latex to write the word "Draft" across a page, large enough to cover the whole page, but in a lighter shade of print so as not to obscure the text that is on the page. As a means of ensuring that if someone copies the resulting paper document they can not erase, or obscure the word "draft". We can possibly edit a change to psprint to do this, but thought we should contact you first to see if there was an offering. If not we will contact the writer of psprint about any change. - -- Pat Pat@uk.ac.leeds.leva --------------------------------- Date: 8-DEC-1988 17:58:22 GMT From: CHAA006@UK.AC.RHBNC.VAXA To: Info-TeX@UK.AC.ASTON Subject: New SB(08)TEX.ARC file in archive Sender: JANET"CHAA006@UK.AC.RHBNC.VAXA" Message-Id: <224018B2_001A22E4.0091D09BC186F280$55_3@UK.AC.RHBNC.VAXA> Originally-to: $UK-TEX Originally-from:CHAA006 "Philip Taylor (RHBNC) " Mailer: Janet_Mailshr V3.2 (27-Oct-1988) The original SBTEX.ARC file (Wayne Sullivan's MS/DOS implementation of TeX, in Turbo Pascal V4) could not be successfully un/de-archived at some sites. Wayne very kindly sent me a further copy in SUDECO format, which I re-built at RHBNC. The resulting file (SB08TEX.ARC) can be successfully un/de-archived using PKXARC FAST! Archive Extract Utility Version 3.5 04-27-87 Copyright (c) 1986,1987 PKWARE Inc. All Rights Reserved. PKXARC/h for help but ARC - Archive utility, Version 5.20, created on 10/24/86 at 14:56:41 (C) COPYRIGHT 1985,86 by System Enhancement Associates; ALL RIGHTS RESERVED still reports >>>I don't know how to handle file HYPHEN.TEX in archive SB08TEX.ARC >>>I think you need a newer version of ARC. The file has subsequently been transferred from my PC-V to a VAX/VMS system using Kermit ("SET FILE TYPE BINARY"), and thence transferred to the archive using blue-book FTP ("TRANSFER /CODE=FAST"). Similar incantations, applied in the reverse direction, should result in a usable SB08TEX.ARC file. The present location is [PUBLIC.ARC]SB08TEX.ARC, and it is TeX V2.93. ** Phil. --------------------------------- !! !! Files of interest [public]000aston.readme !! [public]000directory.list !! [public]000directory_dates.list !! [public]000directory.size !! [public]000last30days.files !! !! Editor - I have a tape labelled TeX 2.9 LaTeX 2.09 Metafont 1.3 !! Unix 4.2/3BSD VAX SUN 2/3 Pyramid Sequent SYS V: 3B2 Tar 1600 bpi blocked !! 20 1 file dated 26 may 1988 (from washington.edu). - Later one on its !! way. !! I have the facility to copy this tape for anyone who sends the following !! 1 2400 tape with return labels AND RETURN postage. !! !! Send to !! !! P Abbott !! Computing Service !! Aston University !! Aston Triangle !! Birmingham B4 7ET !! !! A VMS backup of the archive requires 2 (two ) 2400' tapes at 6250bpi. !! Remaining details as above. !! !! Replies/submissions to info-tex@uk.ac.aston please !! distribution changes to info-tex-request@uk.ac.aston please !! !! end of issue