UKTeX V89 #11 Friday 24 March 1989 \newdimen DEC LN03R + Sun PUBLIC account at Aston University RE: UKTeX V89 #10 UNDUMP \enumerate and \itemize within \newtheorems help needed on WP systems (etc) in use does anyone have texx2.4 ? Re: to be a bug or not to be a bug? tex2.8 Overheard DVI drivers for VAX/VMS SBTeX TeX / LaTeX Introductory Guides TeX tapes Editor Peter Abbott I have received a request to create a tape with files from the Archive in VM/CMS format. Is there anyone willing to undertake the creation of tapes in this format? I have created a new group [public.documents.latex] and inserted the file from Jon Warbrick (Plymouth) (essential LaTeX). The file is [public.documents.latex]plymouth.intro Latest TeXhax in the Archive is #16 Latest TeXmag in the Archive is V3N1 (received February 28 1989) --------------------------------- From: Sebastian Rahtz Received: from drake.cm.soton.ac.uk by hilliard.ecs.soton.ac.uk; Fri, 17 Mar 89 15:22:35 GMT Date: Fri, 17 Mar 89 15:19:49 GMT Message-Id: <16398.8903171519@drake.cm.soton.ac.uk> Subject: \newdimen I was under the illusion that the command \newdimen was limited in its effect by the current block. I am wrong, it never goes away. So can someone advise me on how to load two macro packages at once, both of which are littered with \newdimen s? The number of \count s is fixed at 255, I assume. How can I reclaim the space package A used so that B can use it? Sebastian Rahtz, Computer Science, Southampton --------------------------------- Received: from brwa by kestrel.Ukc.AC.UK with UUCP id aa11416; 17 Mar 89 16:11 GMT Received: from yatton.inmos.co.uk by brwa.inmos.co.uk; Fri, 17 Mar 89 16:10:34 GMT From: David Shepherd Date: Fri, 17 Mar 89 16:14:29 GMT Message-Id: <1545.8903171614@yatton.inmos.co.uk> Subject: DEC LN03R + Sun Not really a TeX question, but has anyone connect a DEC LN03R PostScript printer to a Sun 3 without problems. Our one here often stops half way through a job with a PostScript ioerror. Any hints welcome. Please e-mail anything to me and I'll summarise any results david shepherd INMOS ltd. --------------------------------- Received: from rsunj by cvaxa.sussex.ac.uk; Fri, 3 Mar 89 10:52:57 GMT From: Philip Taylor Date: Fri, 3 Mar 89 10:50:04 GMT Message-Id: <6091.8903031050@rsunj.cvaxa.sussex.ac.uk> Subject: PUBLIC account at Aston University I am having trouble getting certain files from the TeX server. Trying to get PSLaTeX, I can copy down (via hhcp) the pslatex.shar with no problem. However the .TFM files in [PUBLIC.PSLATEX.PSFONTS.TFM] refuse to transfer. Over the last week I have had the transfers hanging up for days on end and getting nowhere. Is there a problem with those files? Philip Taylor *=============================================================================* * Philip Taylor | Systems Programmer * * COGS, | Tel: (+44)- (0)273 606755 Ext 4284 * * Arts Building E, | * * University Of Sussex, | JANET: philipt@uk.ac.sussex.cogs * * Falmer, | UUCP: ...mcvax!ukc!cvaxa!philipt * * Brighton, BN1 9QN | ARPA: * * UNITED KINGDOM. | philipt%uk.ac.sussex.cogs@nss.cs.ucl.ac.uk * * | * *=============================================================================* +++Editor - My apologies, this item was missed from last weeks issue. The only known problems at present after files in stream_lf format and this problem may be resolved in the near future. +++ --------------------------------- Date: 17-MAR-1989 20:05:35 GMT From: CHAA006@UK.AC.RHBNC.VAXB Subject: RE: UKTeX V89 #10 Sender: JANET"CHAA006@UK.AC.RHBNC.VAXB" Reply-to: Philip Taylor (RHBNC) Originally-to: JANET"ABBOTTP@UK.AC.ASTON" Mailer: Janet_Mailshr V3.3a (02-Feb-1989) Mark Charter asked: >>>1. What is the difference between the contents of SBTEX.ARC and >>>SB08TEX.ARC? SBTEX.ARC is corrupt; SB08TEX.ARC is OK. >>>2. How can I retrieve and unpack SBTEX.ARC successfully? You can't. SB08TEX is the production version; SBTEX could safely be deleted. ** Phil. +++Editor - SBTEX.ARC has been deleted +++ --------------------------------- Date: Sun, 19 Mar 89 14:40:15 GMT From: Dr R M Damerell (RHBNC) Subject: UNDUMP Please could anybody supply me with a copy of UNDUMP suitable for a SUN (3/60, OS 3.5)? I got some files of that name from the archives, but there is at least one file missing( scanargs.c ) and I cannot tell if the rest will work. Thank you. (I will be away for about a fortmight after Easter) Mark --------------------------------- Date: 20-MAR-1989 17:52:02 GMT From: RBAILEY@UK.AC.AFRC.RESB Subject: \enumerate and \itemize within \newtheorems Sender: JANET"RBAILEY@UK.AC.AFRC.RESB" In UKTeX 1989 #10 Mike Piff asks why \enumerate and \itemize get corrupted in LaTeX's \newtheorem environments. In my experience they are not corrupted, but they behave a little differently from how you might expect because \newtheorems are list environments. This means that if your Theorem or Proof or whatever starts with \enumerate or \itemize then the first item runs straight on from the ``Theorem 2.2'' or whatever. As far as I am concerned this is a good thing---it is exactly what I expect multi-part theorems and proofs to do. If you want to start the first item on a new line you have to fool LaTeX into thinking that some input goes before it. from memory \phantom{word}\par seems to work. Rosemary Bailey, Rothamsted Experimental Station --------------------------------- Date: 20-MAR-1989 18:07:04 GMT From: RBAILEY@UK.AC.AFRC.RESB Subject: help needed on WP systems (etc) in use Sender: JANET"RBAILEY@UK.AC.AFRC.RESB" From: R. A. Bailey Phone: 05827 63133 Statistics Department (from overseas: Rothamsted Experimental Station +44 5827 63133) Harpenden, Herts, AL5 2 JQ, U.K. extension 2408 Email: username: rbailey address: uk.ac.afrc.resb (from within U.K. via JANET) or: resb.afrc.ac.uk (from overseas via EARN) To all UKTeXies: I need your help. My institution is currently reconsidering its word-processing/ text-processing provision, and is aware that other institutions with predominantly scientific documents must have had to consider the same issues. I have made no secret of my preference for LaTeX, but, in spite of the evidence of my own secretary, received opinion here is that it is too hard for secretaries. If you are at a university or research council institute or similar and know the answers to any of question 3 below, I should be very grateful if you could take the time to fill in the questionnaire and return it to me by either email or snail mail. 1. Name of Institution: 2. Your name: 3. What do the following categories of people use for word- or text-processing? (a) Secretaries in Mathematical departments: (b) Mathematicians themselves: (c) Secretaries in other scientific departments: (d) Scientists themselves: (e) Secretaries in administration: 4. Any comments on the suitablity or ease-of-use of any of the systems mentioned in answer to question 3? 5. If you would be prepared to answer more specific questions about any of the above systems, please give one of the following: (a) email address and username: (b) snail mail address: (c) telephone number: Thankyou in advance, Rosemary Bailey --------------------------------- Date: Tue, 21 Mar 89 8:04 GMT From: Piete Brooks Cc: Martyn Johnson , Graham Titmus Message-Id: Path: cl.cam.ac.uk!pb Newsgroups: uk.general, mail.uktex Subject: does anyone have texx2.4 ? Reply-To: Piete Brooks Followup-To: uk.followup Distribution: uk Organization: U of Cambridge Comp Lab, UK Has anyone got / is anyone getting this ? Please reply by email. Ta. > texx2.4 is available for anonymous FTP from > a.cs.uiuc.edu: pub/TeX/texx2.4.tar.Z > or expo.lcs.mit.edu: contrib/texx2.4.tar.Z > > texx2, currently at revision 4, is a second generation TeX previewer for > X11 windowing systems. Unlike texx or xdvi, texx2 uses X11 fonts to display > TeX output. A companion program, `mftobdf', is used to convert TeX fonts > (i.e., PXL/GF/PK) fonts to the the formats required for X11. > > Consequentially, texx2 is significantly faster than the first release of > texx or the venerable xdvi. Page display occurs at roughly the same speed > of displays in `xman'. It's really even faster than texsun. +++ Editor - I have fetched texx2.8.tar.Z and it is available in the archive +++ --------------------------------- Received: by doc.memex.co.uk (5.54/memex_12) id AA16102; Tue, 21 Mar 89 14:04:55 GMT Date: Tue, 21 Mar 89 14:04:55 GMT From: peter@uk.co.memex (Peter Ilieve) Message-Id: <8903211404.AA16102@doc.memex.co.uk> Subject: Re: to be a bug or not to be a bug? Sebastian Rahtz rightly criticizes the onward march of progress when it does this to him: b) doing an EOF when TeX is asking for something from the keyboard sends the TeX into an infinite loop The answer is in this bit of a message from Barbara Beeton (in Peter's treasure trove as [public.texstatus]message_013.03_mar_1989) quoting DEK. - ------- 2.97: In TEX.WEB, there are one too many instances of: @.End of file on the terminal@> ... when I created version 2.95 in December, I made a bunch of changes to ERRATA.TEX etc but I left out the most important change to TEX.WEB itself! Namely, consider the following excerpt from TEX82.BUG[tex,dek]: 349. By popular request, undo #347 and fix the bug a more complex way. @x module 71 [this undoes change #347] if not input_ln(term_in,true) then t_open_in; @y if not input_ln(term_in,true) then fatal_error("End of file on the terminal!"); @z @x [and there's a lot more] Well, I forgot to install that. So the index was right, but not the program... At SAIL, I'm unable to test EOF on the terminal. *** Folks, please excuse this dreadful oversight. The maintainers of TeX must think I'm completely off my rocker. I have now fixed TEX.WEB at SAIL, but not at SCORE or anywhere else. I've changed the version number to 2.97 simply because there exist versions 2.95--2.96 in which this typo is present. Version 2.97 is version 2.96 the way I thought 2.96 was. (I also changed the version numbers in INITEX.CH and TRIP*.) - ------- The single line of tex.web to change is line 1636, in procedure term_input. Peter Ilieve peter@memex.co.uk --------------------------------- Date: Wed, 22 Mar 89 1:25:49 WET From: Lee McLoughlin Subject: tex2.8 Message-ID: <8903220128.aa16473@tgould.doc.ic.ac.uk> 2.4 was replaced the net day by 2.5 and the day after by 2.6 .... Its now (I've not looked in the last couple of days) by 2.8 I'll stick it in the UNOFF-OTHER area of the X archive on the gould. Mail info-server@doc.ic.ac.uk with an empty subject line and a message body of: request catalogue topic xv11r3-unoff request end for details. - -- - -- Lee McLoughlin 01 589 5111 X 5028 Department of Computing,Imperial College,180 Queens Gate,London SW7 2BZ, UK Janet: lmjm@uk.ac.ic.doc Uucp: lmjm@icdoc.UUCP, ukc!icdoc!lmjm DARPA: lmjm@doc.ic.ac.uk (or lmjm%uk.ac.ic.doc@nss.cs.ucl.ac.uk) +++ Editor - Texx2.8 is also available from the archive in the temporary area [public.temp]texx2_8.tar_Z +++ --------------------------------- Date: 22-MAR-1989 13:23:45 GMT From: CA_ROWLEY@UK.AC.OPEN.ACS.VAX Subject: Overheard Sender: JANET"CA_ROWLEY@UK.AC.OPEN.ACS.VAX" A gem from TeXhax (makes it all seem worthwhile somehow): "But, now I don't even understand why the verbatim environment works at all, and I don't feel like figuring it out." Leslie Lamport (in a reply to David Rhead) --------------------------------- Date: 22-MAR-1989 15:37:11 GMT From: CHAA006@UK.AC.RHBNC.VAXA Subject: DVI drivers for VAX/VMS Sender: JANET"CHAA006@UK.AC.RHBNC.VAXA" Message-Id: <20800232_000931A4.009222413FB37560$22_1@UK.AC.RHBNC.VAXA> Originally-to: $UK-TEX Originally-from:CHAA006 "Philip Taylor (RHBNC) " Mailer: Janet_Mailshr V3.3a (02-Feb-1989) I have been asked to investigate the availability of DVI drivers for VAX/VMS. I already have extremely satisfactory drivers for the LN03S (Brian Hamilton- Kelly's DVItoLN03), LN03R/PostScript (ArborText's DVILASER/PS) and assorted VDUs (Andy Trevorrow's DVItoVDU), all of which (with perhaps a little tweaking) provide a uniform VMS interface ($ DVI/ /). I would be extremely reluctant to move away from this syntax, and therefore the Beebe family of drivers is not ideal (it uses a Un*x-style interface, with the qualifier delimiter "-"). I would be very grateful if anyone who has a reliable DVI driver for VAX/VMS which supports output devices other than the above, and which uses (or could easily be modified to use) the VMS qualifier syntax, could let me know the details. Support for PK fonts is an essential component of the requirement. Philip Taylor Royal Holloway and Bedford New College. --------------------------------- Date: 22 Mar 89 15:27:50 gmt From: R.J.Hare @ uk.ac.edinburgh Subject: SBTeX Message-ID: <22 Mar 89 15:27:50 gmt 340505@EMAS-A> Hi. Someone told me that Aston might be the place to ask about device drivers and font files for SBTeX on PCs and clones, so as your name appears at the top of the UKTeX messages, I guess you are the right person to ask. If you do have any information about these drivers and font files, I'd be very grateful. Thanks. Roger Hare. --------------------------------- Date: 22 Mar 1989 17:35:46-GMT Subject: TeX / LaTeX Introductory Guides From: D.H.Sheryn TeX / LaTeX Introductory Guides In a recent UKTeX (V89 #09) you said that Sheffield had documentation suitable for beginners with TeX/LaTeX - could you give further details. Thanks Dave Sheryn Detpt of Information Science dhs@city City University Northampton Square London EC1V 0HB --------------------------------- Date: 3-MAR-1989 09:14:21.92 From: Wolfgang Moll Subj: TeX tapes Dear Mr. Abbott, recently, I've found your announcement that you are willing to distribute tape copies from the TeX repository at Aston University. We would like to use this service. As you have pointed out you will need beside the tapes also return labels and return postage. Unfortunately, we don't know what kind of return postage will be needed (stamps, money ?). It would be very nice if you could tell us which mode of payment you would prefer: - - international reply-coupons - - check - - cash - - or anything else. Furthermore, please indicate how much it will presumably cost to send the tapes back. Many thanks in advance Wolfgang Moll Computer Science Department University of Bonn +++Editor - - international reply-coupons (20 coupons) - - check 5 pounds sterling - - cash Not recommended - - or anything else. Cheque in DM (but add equivalent of 3 pounds sterling for bank charges) The preferred method is check for 5 pounds (sterling). +++ --------------------------------- !! !! Files of interest [public]000aston.readme !! [public]000directory.list !! [public]000directory_dates.list !! [public]000directory.size !! [public]000last30days.files !! !! Editor - I have a tape labelled TeX 2.95 LaTeX 2.09 Metafont 1.7 !! Unix 4.2/3BSD & System V. Tar 1600 bpi blocked !! 20 1 file dated 30 January 1989 (from washington.edu). !! !! FTP access site uk.ac.aston.spock !! username public !! password public !! !! I have the facility to copy this tape for anyone who sends the following !! 1 2400 tape with return labels AND RETURN postage. !! !! Send to !! !! P Abbott !! Computing Service !! Aston University !! Aston Triangle !! Birmingham B4 7ET !! !! A VMS backup of the archive requires 2 (two ) 2400' tapes at 6250bpi. !! Remaining details as above. !! Other tape options in the pipeline. !! !! Replies/submissions to info-tex@uk.ac.aston please !! distribution changes to info-tex-request@uk.ac.aston please !! !! end of issue