UKTeX V89 #21 Friday 9 June 1989 Re: The current UK-TeX (miscellaneous) PD version of TeX for MSDOS/PCDOS SBTeX Modula-2 for VMS DVITOVDU Re: FTPing OzTeX Re: tracing \input Re: Previewing DVI files Re: How to change the paper "size" ? information sticky labels Modula-2 compilers re. Modula-2 and VMS TeX bits dvi2ps + gf + Postscript some replies to questions in UKTeX V89 #20 \csname...\endcsname,etc Numerals in control word names Where is the OzTeX config file on aston TeX User Group information Getting AFM Files from laser? Z macros TeX User Group Apology to Malcolm! Lumberjacks, etc. PC Previewer Metafont on Sun 4 Problem hhcp'ing binary files from tex-archive GUTenberg Help requested with parallel language setting RE: Maintaining LARGE files in the TeX archive TeX archive on SPAN Editor Peter Abbott This issue is being despatched due to the accumulated volume of material and a change of plans on my part. The next issue will appear as usual next Friday June 16 1989. Aston are considering a Postscript printer for central use and I would like information and opinions please. Something of at least 15+ pages a minute, with a sheet feeder of reasonable size (say not less than 1000 sheets) and it must be heavy duty. No doubt cost will rule a lot out but the Agfa PS400 seems a good one to start with. At last the problem associated with the mail service has been located. Unfortunately the link between aston.tex and the node connecting us to the outside world was found to be faulty. Many messages have simply `been lost without trace' and FTP access was erratic and unpredictable. It all appears to be back to normal. We hope that the OZTeX section is now complete and transferable correctly. I apologise to everyone who has had problems getting material from the archive over the past few weeks but hopefully we can look forward to a distinct improvement. When using the mail service for texserver please send to texserver@uk.ac.aston.tex sending to texserver@uk.ac.aston will also work but this introduces an extra delay. I have been trying to include output from programmes running on a MAC and there appears to be almost as many file formats as programmes. It seems the only common denominator is the file produced by a clover-leaf f or k command when using print (i.e capturing the output as sent to the Postscript printer). Has anyone developed facilities for manipulating these files with ordinary text editors (remembering that some have limited line lengths, that cr is required as well as lf), movable between systems with kermit or similar so that they can be included with \special. I have tried PSfig but it generates specials in a form incompatible with Andrew Trevorrows implementation of PSprint. Latest TeXhax in the Archive is #47 Latest TeXmag in the Archive is V3N2 --------------------------------- Date: Fri, 26 MAY 89 16:40:34 BST From: CHAA006@UK.AC.RHBNC.VAXB Subject: Re: The current UK-TeX (miscellaneous) Sender: JANET"CHAA006@UK.AC.RHBNC.VAXB" Reply-to: Philip Taylor (RHBNC) Originally-to: JANET%"UKTeX@Aston" Mailer: Janet_Mailshr V3.4 (23-May-1989) Adrian Clark asked: >>> I am a dedicated user of SliTeX for preparing overheads. When >>> preparing them, however, it would often be useful to get several of >>> them on a page at reduced size, only producing full-size output for >>> the final version. Has anyone produced a style file which does >>> something like this? If you have access to it, Adrian, consider DVILASER/PS; it will allow you to place little mini-pages all over a real page, just by specifying the magnification (really: reduction) and the x-y co-ordinates of the origin of each of a cycle of pages. Sebastian Rahtz , referring to Don Hosek's query re tracing \input statements, said: >>> of course a dirty solution would be to redefine \input so that it >>> wrote a message on an external file each time it was called; then >>> you'd have to run TeX to get the information, but it would work. but why on earth is this a "dirty solution" ? Surely it is the obvious and most elegant solution ? [\let \Input = \input \def \input {... \Input}] Sebastian also refers to "lfonts.truesizes", and generating miscellaneous LaTeX fonts at 1270dpi. At yesterday's Phototypesetter User Group meeting, Malcolm Clark asked for just such fonts; could you lodge a copy with Martin Powell , please Sebastian ? Andy Trevorrow , referring to the Hamburg Modula-2 compiler, wrote: >>> I get quite a few requests for the Hamburg Uni VAX/VMS Modula-2 system. >>> I wish I could say it was in the public domain but I simply don't know >>> the current status of the compiler. The DVItoVDU System Guide gives >>> the following contact name and address: >>> Dr. Joachim W. Schmidt >>> Johan Wolfgang Goethe Universitat >>> Fachbereich Informatik >>> Dantestr. 9 D6000 Frankfurt am Main >>> Deutschland I'm fairly sure that's where we got our copy from (it certainly was Dr. Schmidt at the Johan Wolfgang Goethe Universitat, Fachbereich Informatik, but I'm not sure about the Dantestr. 9 D6000), but Andy: it won't compile with that compiler ! I've heard rumours you re-write parts of it to implement an advanced syntax rendering EXPORT directives or somesuch un-necessary; any truth in that ? Stefanos Manganaris asks about \csname, \endcsname: >>> I define somewhere \currsize to be \huge or \large or similar things, via >>> \let\currsize\huge >>> Later I want to call a macro that has a name that depends upon the value of >>> \currsize. For example, if \currsize has the value \huge I would like to >>> call my macro \hugegr i.e a macro with "gr" appended to the value of \currsize. His problem, as I see it, is that his "\let" is {\it immediately} losing the very information he wants: the name of the control word which is being ascribed to \currsize. What I think he needs is "\def \currsize {\huge}", which then, via "\string", will yield the {\it name} of the control sequence, not its meaning. Try: \def \currsize {\huge} \message {\expandafter \string \currsize} \end Will Hossack asks for "a current (0.99c) BiBTeX implementation for VMS, (ie the BIBTEX.CH file for VMS)". I've sent him one. M.N. Ullah asked about using digits in control words: >>> 1. How to cheat TeX to enable me to use digits as well as letters in >>> control sequence of a macro. >>> Example: >>> \def\tm{\font\cs=Times at 10 pt\cs} >>> When I call \tm it works perfectly. However, I would like to define the >>> macro with number as well. >>> Example: >>> \def\tm1{\font\cs=Times at 10 pt\cs} >>> \def\tm2{\font\cs=Times at 12 pt\cs} >>> \def\tm3{\font\cs=TimesI at 10 pt\cs} >>> \def\H1{\font\cs=Helvetica at 10 pt\cs} >>> etc. >>> Now if I call \tm1 it does not work! >>> If i succeed it will make my work of typesetting text very easy. At the >>> star5 of the job I will define the macros using a combination of letters >>> and digits and then call them as required. If this is {\it really} what you want do do, then try: \chardef \ten 10 \chardef \eleven 11 \catcode `\0 = \eleven \catcode `\1 = \eleven \catcode `\2 = \eleven \catcode `\3 = \eleven \catcode `\4 = \eleven \catcode `\5 = \eleven \catcode `\6 = \eleven \catcode `\7 = \eleven \catcode `\8 = \eleven \catcode `\9 = \eleven \def \tm1 {\font\cs=psmtimr at \ten pt\cs} \tm1 \end But I don't advise it ! Philip Taylor Royal Holloway and Bedford New College End of returned mail --------------------------------- Received: from UKACRL by UK.AC.RL.IB (Mailer X1.25) with BSMTP id 5184; Fri, 26 May 89 17:06:33 BS Received: from DHDURZ1 by UKACRL.BITNET (Mailer X1.25) with BSMTP id 2723; Fri, 26 May 89 17:06:32 B Received: by DHDURZ1 (Mailer R2.03B) id 4481; Fri, 26 May 89 17:57:26 CET Date: Fri, 26 May 89 17:51:06 CET From: Deutschsprachige Anwendervereinigung TeX Subject: PD version of TeX for MSDOS/PCDOS At the LISTSERV@DHDURZ1 is a new filelist installed for the Public TeX of Klaus Thull, which he has announced in TUGboat 10/1. For this version of TeX on PC you need the WEB files and TURBO PASCAL 4.0 and better. The PCHACKER GUIDE of Klaus is in german language, the INST GUIDE is in english. To get a directory of the filelist you have to send to LISTSERV@DHDURZ1 the command GET TEX-PUB FILELIST To get the files you have to send the command GET fn ft TEX-PUB to the Listserv. For members of DANTE it is possible to get the files on diskettes. For more information about that ask DANTE, Deitschsprachige Anwendervereinigung TeX e.V. Im Neuenheimer Feld 293 6900 Heidelberg 1 West Germany DANTE@DHDURZ1 With kind regards Joachim Lammarsch (Chairman DANTE) Acknowledge-To: --------------------------------- Received: from amazon by sol.warwick.ac.uk; Fri, 26 May 89 18:25:49 +0059 From: Steve Gaito Received: from leam.warwick.ac.uk by amazon.warwick.ac.uk; Fri, 26 May 89 18:27:45 BST Date: Fri, 26 May 89 18:27:40 BST Message-Id: <3026.8905261727@leam.warwick.ac.uk> Subject: SBTeX Hello The Lancaster PD-software archives say that they no longer hold copies of SBTeX since you are now have it. Yet as I looked through your LaTeX directory listings (as well as [tex-archive]000directory.listing) I could not find any reference to SBTeX. I have found DosTeX but would like to compare SBTeX to DosTeX. I am, in particular, interested in previewers for the IBM-PC/AT with either Hercules or EGA graphics and I don't think that DosTeX has a previewer. Are you going to get a copy of SBTeX? Do you know of any good previewers for PC's? Steve Gaito --------------------------------- Received: from a.gec-epl.co.uk by kestrel.Ukc.AC.UK via PSS (UKC CAMEL FTP) id aa07141; 26 May 89 19:01 BST Original-Via: SUNFS; Fri, 26 May 89 19:02 (V30 at UK.CO.GEC-EPL) From: Don_Ward@uk.co.gec-epl Date: Fri, 26 May 89 17:43:56 BST Subject: Modula-2 for VMS DVITOVDU Sender: Don_Ward%uk.co.gec-epl%sunfs@uk.co.gec-epl.a Peter Stern and Mike Glendinning want to know how to get hold of the Hamburg VAX/VMS Modula-2 compiler to create DVITOVDU. Must it be the actual Hamburg distribution? If so I can't help. However, If you're willing to pay money, the Hamburg compiler is marketed by Logitech and the agents for it in this country are Real Time Associates (phone 01-656-7333). If you're not willing to pay money, I *might* be able to help: We have the RTA/Logitech/Hamburg compiler. I could try to compile DVITOVDU for you and send back the resulting executable. I'm fairly sure that this doesn't break the license conditions of the compiler. If people are interested in this wheeze, they should contact me directly to arrange shipping of the source etc. to me. There is, of course, no guarantee of success or of how swiftly I'll be able to do it, but I'll try. There is definitely no guarantee at all about maintaining it afterwards. Don Ward Systems Design Division GEC Electrical Projects Ltd Email: Don_Ward@gec-epl.co.uk Boughton Road, Rugby, CV21 1BU UK. Tel: (+44 788 or 0788) 542144 --------------------------------- Date: Fri, 26 May 89 16:54:17 BST From: John.Aspden @ uk.ac.newcastle Subject: Re: FTPing OzTeX Cc: info-tex @ uk.ac.aston.mail Message-id: In-reply-to: <13514.8905260827@caxton.ecs.soton.ac.uk> Many thanks - OzBin.Hqx Ftp'd, de-binhexed and unstuffed correctly. Now I just need to get all those PK files..... --------------------------------- Received: from UKACRL by UK.AC.RL.IB (Mailer X1.25) with BSMTP id 2639; Sun, 28 May 89 02:09:36 BS Received: from UICVM by UKACRL.BITNET (Mailer X1.25) with BSMTP id 9177; Sun, 28 May 89 02:09:36 Received: by UICVM (Mailer R2.03B) id 5452; Sat, 27 May 89 20:09:59 CDT Date: Sat, 27 May 89 20:03:52 CDT From: Don Hosek Subject: Re: tracing \input s In-Reply-To: Your message of Sat, 20 May 89 18:16:16 BST On Sat, 20 May 89 18:16:16 BST Sebastian said: >Don Hosek wants automatic lists of all the files he references >with \input. Well, thats all very easy I suppose, but then he also >wants to trace \input s through any other TeX command. So if I say > \def\a#1{\b{#1}} > \def\b#1{\input #1} > > \b{chapter2} > >he wants the reference to chapter 2 traced. Surely this is like the >perennial spelling check problem, ie it can only be done properly by >having most of the functionality of TeX in your program? > >of course a dirty solution would be to redefine \input so that it >wrote a message on an external file each time it was called; then >you'd have to run TeX to get the information, but it would work. Actually what I want is a far simpler solution than that. The commands in a TeX (or MF) file which can perform an input or input-like function is small enough that it can easily be specified on an ad hoc basis. For example, in the application which I want to produce a list of files used, I need to trace the commands \input, \include, \qvfile and \qfile. These could be specified on the command line if I really wanted to do so. An even dirtier solution would be to parse the log file (since that also writes a list of files opened), but it doesn't seem to difficult problem to do by hand. The only thing to be wary of is that command syntax is not always consistent (some of my \input's are in the form \input fn.ext while others are in the form \input{fn.ext} -dh -------------------+----------------------------------------------- Don Hosek | Internet: U33297@UICVM.UIC.EDU 3916 Elmwood | Bitnet: U33297@UICVM.BITNET Stickney, IL 60402 | DHOSEK@YMIR.BITNET Work: 312-996-2981 | UUNet: dhosek@jarthur.claremont.edu ERASE * SCRIPT * | JANET: U33297%UICVM.UIC.EDU@UK.AC.EARN-RELAY -------------------+----------------------------------------------- Never give a gun to ducks --------------------------------- Received: from UKACRL by UK.AC.RL.IB (Mailer X1.25) with BSMTP id 2928; Sun, 28 May 89 04:54:39 BS Received: from UICVM by UKACRL.BITNET (Mailer X1.25) with BSMTP id 9476; Sun, 28 May 89 04:54:39 B Received: by UICVM (Mailer R2.03B) id 5607; Sat, 27 May 89 22:54:59 CDT Date: Sat, 27 May 89 22:50:24 CDT From: Don Hosek Subject: Re: Previewing DVI files Andrew Trevorrow's DVItoVDU can easily be modified to drive Tek-emulating PC terminal programs. However, this is PAINFULLY SLOW. The fastest preview is done on a system that has direct access to the screen memory (as is the case with PC's and workstations). However, with a large DVI file, it will take a long time to download the DVI to the microcomputer. One possible solution would be to have PK files resident on the PC, and a terminal emulator which can interface with a Unix host program to transfer the DVI file a page at a time (along with any additional PKs which may be necessary) and handle the actual preview display at the PC level without worrying about any communications bottlenecks while moving about on a given page. Any takers? -dh -------------------+----------------------------------------------- Don Hosek | Internet: U33297@UICVM.UIC.EDU 3916 Elmwood | Bitnet: U33297@UICVM.BITNET Stickney, IL 60402 | DHOSEK@YMIR.BITNET Work: 312-996-2981 | UUNet: dhosek@jarthur.claremont.edu ERASE * SCRIPT * | JANET: U33297%UICVM.UIC.EDU@UK.AC.EARN-RELAY -------------------+----------------------------------------------- Never give a gun to ducks --------------------------------- Received: from cs.rochester.edu by NSFnet-Relay.AC.UK via NSFnet with SMTP id aa02580; 28 May 89 5:38 BST Received: from quasar.cs.rochester.edu by cayuga.cs.rochester.edu (5.59/m) id AA04348; Sun, 28 May 89 00:49:45 EDT Received: from loopback by quasar.cs.rochester.edu (3.2/m) id AA02869; Sun, 28 May 89 00:49:27 EDT Message-Id: <8905280449.AA02869@quasar.cs.rochester.edu> Cc: uktex@uk.ac.aston Subject: Re: How to change the paper "size" ? Reply-To: ken@edu.rochester.cs In-Reply-To: Your message of Mon, 22 May 89 07:32:29 -0000. <8905220832.aa13045@scaup.Cl.Cam.AC.UK> X-Uucp: ..!rochester!ken Internet: ken@cs.rochester.edu X-Snail: CS Dept., U of Roch., NY 14627. Voice: Ken! X-Phone: (716) 275-1448 (office) Date: Sun, 28 May 89 00:49:25 -0400 From: Ken Yap > I have some documentation which I think has been sponsored by a lumberjack [:-)] > as it takes great delight in having wide borders, leaving blank pages, etc. > I'd like to cram as much as I can on the page, primarily for online viewing > (texx2 is GREAT!) but also so as to save a few trees ... > > I have edited it to use the std 10pt (can one easily make it less ?) > and removed the "twoside" but now I want to use all the page. > Having played around a bit, I managed to use the RH border, but none of > the others. So, I'd like a template which has something along the lines of: You should say whether you use TeX or LaTeX in queries. Your mention of the a4 style seems to indicate the latter. There is a file called layout.tex in various archives that draws a layout diagram and parameters that can be changed. Plea: do not sacrifice readability in the final copy to save paper. Putting too many words on a line makes it harder for the eye to "flyback" to the next line, which is why small type on wide pages are set in two columns. I like trees as much as the next person, but I think previewing and avoiding unnecessary paper usage in the first place are more effective strategies. --------------------------------- Received: from UKACRL by UK.AC.RL.IB (Mailer X1.25) with BSMTP id 1581; Tue, 30 May 89 03:03:38 BS Received: from HLERUL52.BITNET (OGIGUCHT) by UKACRL.BITNET (Mailer X1.25) with BSMTP id 0899; Tue, 30 May 89 03:03:38 Date: Mon, 29 May 89 13:10 N From: Subject: information X-Original-To: AbbottP@mail.aston.ac.uk, OGIGUCHTE L.S. I like to have some information about public domain versions of TeX, MetaFont and related software. Especially I'm looking for fonts for a 300 dpi laser printer (like the Apple Laser Writer). Where can I retrieve the software (if there is any)? Thanks in advance. Wisse J. van de Guchte University of Leiden. Leiden. The Netherlands. --------------------------------- Received: from caxton.ecs.soton.ac.uk by hilliard.ecs.soton.ac.uk; Sun, 28 May 89 15:44:06 BST From: spqr@uk.ac.soton.ecs Date: Sun, 28 May 89 15:47:12 BST Message-Id: <1089.8905281447@caxton.ecs.soton.ac.uk> Cc: dder@uk.ac.soton.ecs Subject: sticky labels Maybe other people don't drool when they see sheets of sticky labels which can go through laser printers, but I want to clasp them to my bosom and print neat little logos on every one. Having spent some frustrating hours with LaTeX doing this, I thought other people out there might be saved a few minutes hackery, so here you go (you will probably need to change to a few numbers to get them exactly right on your printer and your labels) Sebastian Rahtz % labels.sty may 28th 1989 % modified `article' style for sticky labels \typeout{Document Style 'labels'. Released May 29th 1989} \input article.sty \parindent=0em\textwidth=8.25in\textheight=11.5in % set practically everything to zero - we want no margins \topmargin=-.9in\headheight=0em\headsep=0em\topskip=0em \footskip=0em\footheight=0em\oddsidemargin=-1in\evensidemargin=-1in \parskip=0pt\pagestyle{empty} %--------------------- \newdimen\labelwidth\newdimen\labelheight\newdimen\halflabel \newdimen\areawidth\newdimen\areaheight % label size \labelwidth=2.75in \labelheight=3.55cm % areawidth and areaheight define the area that will actually be used \areawidth=\labelwidth \areaheight=\labelheight \advance\areawidth by -1cm% side borders of .5cm \halflabel=\labelheight\divide\halflabel by 2 % ----------- basic label macro \newcount\labelnumber\labelnumber=0 \def\label#1{ % start new paragraph after every 3rd label \ifnum\labelnumber=3\par\labelnumber=1\else\advance\labelnumber by 1\fi \makebox[\labelwidth]{% \rule{0pt}{\labelheight}% a strut of labelheight % set position to half-way up strut % forces text forced to be labelheight and vertically centred \raisebox{\halflabel}[0pt][0pt]{% \begin{minipage}{\areawidth}#1 \end{minipage}% }}} --------------------------------- Date: Tue, 30 MAY 89 11:02:43 BST From: CHAA006@UK.AC.RHBNC.VAXB Subject: Modula-2 compilers Sender: JANET"CHAA006@UK.AC.RHBNC.VAXB" Reply-to: Philip Taylor (RHBNC) Originally-to: $UK-TEX Mailer: Janet_Mailshr V3.4 (23-May-1989) I have received the following message from Andrew Trevorrow regarding Mpdula-2 compilers: I should have mentioned that Hamburg's compiler was modified at Adelaide Uni to conform with Wirth's language revisions as defined in the 3rd edition of his book "Programming in Modula-2". Some bugs were fixed and internal compiler limits increased (to allow compilation of a Modula-2 version of TeX that eventually led to OzTeX). I'd be happy to make this compiler available to the current distributors of the Hamburg compiler (whoever and wherever they are!), or to everybody if the software is now in the public domain. Andrew --------------------------------- Received: by uk.ac.ox.prg (4.12/prgv.37) id AA10192; Tue, 30 May 89 17:36:26 bst Message-Id: <8905301636.AA10192@uk.ac.ox.prg> Date: Tue, 30 May 89 17:37:09 BST From: Charles Curran Organization: Oxford University Computing Service, UK Subject: re. Modula-2 and VMS TeX bits Andrew Trevorrow's info regarding the Modula-2 compiler he used for DVItoVDU and PSPRINT is still up-to-date, viz the `Hamburg' compiler is available from Dr. Joachim W. Schmidt Fachbereich Informatik Johann Wolfgang Goethe Universitaet Dantestrasse 9 D6000 Frankfurt-am-Main FRG for about 300 pounds sterling. We have been using this Modula2 system for quite a few years now and since our (OUCS) current version -- V3.2-22 -- is almost two years old it is time that I was in contact with Dr Schmidt to buy an update. I shall also ask him about the possibilty of making the compiler more available (freely copyable?). Do non-Modula2 sites (Peter Stern, Mike Glendinning?) really want the compiler just to amend Andrew's code? There are versions in C and it should be possible in about 5-man days to recode the modules in Pascal for which there is a compiler on most(?) VAX/VMS systems. If you have changes you would like to incorporate and have the code written, it should be possible to generate the necessary executables either at Aston or some other site. --Charles Curran, Oxford University Computing Service. --------------------------------- Received: from lentil.cs.aber.ac.uk by athene.cs.aber.ac.uk; Tue, 30 May 89 20:59:49 BST From: aro@uk.ac.aber.cs Message-Id: <13003.8905301959@lentil.cs.aber.ac.uk> Subject: dvi2ps + gf + Postscript Date: Tue, 30 May 89 20:59:37 BST X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.2 PL0] Does anyone have a version of dvi2ps which: - reads GF format fonts, rather than PK - understands Postscript fonts - runs on a UNIX box The version of dvi2ps I use currently reads GF fonts but doesn't understand Postscript. I've got Mario Wolczko's PSLaTeX stuff from the archive and built it, but the dvi2ps wants PK fonts. I'd rather not change all my fonts to PK unless it is unavoidable. Thanks, Andy Ormsby aro@uk.ac.aber.cs - -- --------------------------------- Received: from caxton.ecs.soton.ac.uk by hilliard.ecs.soton.ac.uk; Tue, 30 May 89 20:53:22 BST From: spqr@uk.ac.soton.ecs Date: Tue, 30 May 89 20:56:32 BST Message-Id: <22836.8905301956@caxton.ecs.soton.ac.uk> Cc: pb@uk.ac.cam.cl, alien@uk.ac.sx.ese, andrew@uk.ac.hull.cs.isdg, cudat@uk.ac.warwk.cu Subject: some replies to questions in UKTeX V89 #20 I am a dedicated user of SliTeX for preparing overheads. When preparing them, however, it would often be useful to get several of them on a page at reduced size, only producing full-size output for Doesn't Tom Rokicki's dvidvi filter have hacks to do this ort of thing? [tex-archive.drivers.dvidvi]. As someone who uses a PostScript device, I'd suggest a filter to redefine showpage etc, and I'm sure there are some generalised ones around. ------------------ I am trying to generate a rather long table in LaTeX, and I would like the table heading to appear at the top of the table on each page without having to fiddle the column heights using the tabbing environment. supertab.sty is what you want, in [tex-archive.latex.contrib] but it only works by counting lines, so p{..} constructs in the preamble will fail ------------------ Having played around a bit, I managed to use the RH border, but none of the others. So, I'd like a template which has something along the lines of: \vsize=11.4truein \hsize=8.25truein \leftmargin 0.5truein \topmargin 0.5truein \rightmargin 0.5truein \bottommargin 0.5truein I use a style option called a4.sty containing \topmargin -1in % Nominal distance from top of paper to top of page \textheight 10in % was 53\baselineskip \advance\textheight by \topskip \oddsidemargin=-.3in \evensidemargin=-.3in \textwidth=6.6in but dont ask me why ------------------------ M.N. Ullah says: 1. How to cheat TeX to enable me to use digits as well as letters in control sequence of a macro. forget it. this is contrary to the basic spirit of TeX; if you define 1 to be an element of a macro name, how will you typeset the letter 1? doubtless there are hacks, but its not worth it In colour separation the headline (for example) is blue the rest of the page is black. I would like to typeset the page in its entirety, including the headline. But the output should not show the headline. A second version of the output should show only the headline and not the text. now there's an interesting one... the answer, to my mind, clearly lies in the \special command. I'd define a command \blue, putting headline etc in it, and make \blue surround its argument with a \special,and then hack the driver. (all the \special need do is fiddle with setgray if you are a PostScript person). I bet there's a hacky way in TeX, though, whereby you define all characters to just output a blank box rather than themselves..... ------ I have had an inquiry from someone who uses LaTeX on our Unix systems. His department has several IBM PC look-alikes and Macintoshes that can show graphics on their screens and can mimic Tektronix graphics terminals (among other things). how about getting DVItoVDU which (somewhere I think) has a Tektronix previewer (or am I dreaming?) Sebastian Rahtz --------------------------------- Date: Wed, 31 May 89 10:26:20 From: Mike Piff Subject: \csname...\endcsname,etc %Stefanos Manganaris asks whether he can \let\currsize\huge, and then, later on, %get TeX to use the control word \hugegr % I don't think you have a hope of doing what you want if you \let \currsize %to \huge, etc, since, in a \let, \currsize merely looks at the current meaning %of \huge; it retains no information whatsoever about the actual name `\huge'. %However, if you use \def\currsize{\huge} instead, you can do the following: \documentstyle{article} {\catcode`\!=0 \catcode`\\=12 !gdef!gulp#1->\#2 {#2}} \def\defcurrsizeetc{%to produce \def\hugegr or \def\tinygr, etc, \edef\Temp{\noexpand\def\csname\expandafter\gulp\meaning\currsize gr\endcsname}% \Temp} \def\currsize{\huge} \defcurrsizeetc{Whatever you want to define \hugegr as} \show\hugegr \def\currsize{\tiny} \defcurrsizeetc{Whatever you want to define \tinygr as} \show\tinygr % The following makes \currsizeetc behave like \hugegr, \tinygr, etc. \def\currsizeetc{\csname\expandafter\gulp\meaning\currsize gr\endcsname} \begin{document} \end{document} From +-------------------------------------+ | Dr M J Piff, | | Department of Pure Mathematics, | | University of Sheffield, | | The Hicks Building, | | Hounsfield Road, | | SHEFFIELD S3 7RH, | | England. | | Tel. SHEFFIELD(0742)768555 Ext 4431 | | JANET address: PM1MJP@UK.AC.SHEF.PA | +-------------------------------------+ --------------------------------- Date: Wed, 31 May 89 12:15:19 From: Mike Piff Subject: Numerals in control word names % Someone asks (anonymously) whether it is possible to define control words % like \tm1, \tm2 that contain numbers. The problem with the way you are doing % it, with % \def\tm1{ } % \def\tm2{ } % is that the second definition replaces the first, and INSISTS that the % control word \tm MUST be followed by the digit 2. Thus, \tm1 no longer works. % There are several ways to get numbers, and, indeed, almost anything, into % control words. This is probably the neatest way \documentstyle{article} \def\deftm#1#{\expandafter\def\csname tm\noexpand#1\endcsname} %now use this to define your various macros \deftm20{Font definition 20} % defines [tm20] \deftm21{Font definition 21} % defines [tm21] \expandafter\show\csname tm20\endcsname % show [tm20] \expandafter\show\csname tm21\endcsname % show [tm21] %Use the following to allow you to call the macros \def\tm#1 {\csname tm#1\endcsname}%don't forget the space % now you can use \tm1 , \tm3 , etc, provided you follow them by a space! % alternatively, use %\def\tm#1/{\csname tm#1\endcsname} % and refer to \tm20/, \tm21/, etc \begin{document} %The following are OK: \tm20 \tm21 %but don't forget the space after the number! \tm20oops! %the last one is completely ignored---everything up to the first space after \tm %will disappear, as the control word [tm20oops!] is treated as \relax. \end{document} From +-------------------------------------+ | Dr M J Piff, | | Department of Pure Mathematics, | | University of Sheffield, | | The Hicks Building, | | Hounsfield Road, | | SHEFFIELD S3 7RH, | | England. | | Tel. SHEFFIELD(0742)768555 Ext 4431 | | JANET address: PM1MJP@UK.AC.SHEF.PA | +-------------------------------------+ --------------------------------- Received: from rose.stl.stc.co.uk by stl.stc.co.uk (5.61++/UK-2.1-MX); Wed, 31 May 89 15:35:40 +0100 Message-Id: <29954.8905311433@rose.stl.stc.co.uk> Received: from rose.stl.stc.co.uk by rose.stl.stc.co.uk (3.2/UK-1.4(stc)); Wed, 31 May 89 15:33:04 BST From: shb@uk.co.stc.stl (Simon Brock) Date: Wed, 31 May 89 15:33:02 BST X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (6.5 4/17/89) Subject: Where is the OzTeX config file on aston Cc: info-tex@uk.ac.aston.ac.uk I have managed to transfer most of the files which make up OzTeX from Aston but have not yet found a copy of the file Oz.config. I have transferred the files [TEX-ARCHIVE.TEX.PC.OZTEX]DOCS.HQX [TEX-ARCHIVE.TEX.PC.OZTEX]HELPFILE.HQX [TEX-ARCHIVE.TEX.PC.OZTEX]OZBIN.HQX [TEX-ARCHIVE.TEX.PC.OZTEX]PK300.HQX [TEX-ARCHIVE.TEX.PC.OZTEX]PK329.HQX [TEX-ARCHIVE.TEX.PC.OZTEX]TEXFMTS.HQX [TEX-ARCHIVE.TEX.PC.OZTEX]TEXFONTS.HQX [TEX-ARCHIVE.TEX.PC.OZTEX]TEXINPUTS.HQX [TEX-ARCHIVE.TEX.PC.OZTEX]SEDIT.HQX and will get the files [TEX-ARCHIVE.TEX.PC.OZTEX]PK360.HQX [TEX-ARCHIVE.TEX.PC.OZTEX]PK432.HQX [TEX-ARCHIVE.TEX.PC.OZTEX]PK518.HQX [TEX-ARCHIVE.TEX.PC.OZTEX]PK622.HQX [TEX-ARCHIVE.TEX.PC.OZTEX]PK746.HQX eventually. (I can make PK's here). Therefore can you tell me where the file is. Thanks in advance, Simon Brock PS I did have some problems with some of the .HQX files, I forget which in that when the files got here lines were terminated with two newlines rather than one. This caused my unix based binhex program 'xbin' to get upset. However, the problem is easily cured... -- Simon H Brock, STC Technology Ltd., London Road, Harlow, Essex CM17 9NA. Tel : 0279 29531 x2617 Bitnet : shb%uk.co.stc.stl@ukacrl "In the end, everybody JANET : shb@uk.co.stc.stl must understand UUCP : shb@stl.uucp or shb%stl.uucp@uunet.uu.net themselves." --------------------------------- Received: from SX05@UK.AC.LIVERPOOL by ISMAIL(3.2); 31 May 1989 17:19:19 BST Date: Wed, 31 May 89 17:02:45 BST From: "A.C.Irving" Subject: TeX User Group I have been given your name by my local Computing Service. TeX has only recently been made available on the central IBM3081 so there is only limited expertise here. I had a couple of queries which I thought someone involved with Tugboat(?) might be able to help with . Perhaps you could redirect them to someone more appropriate if necessary.? 1. Where can I get a list of current LaserPrinters for which device drivers are available? (e.g. We have a Centronics PP8 which I think is not suitable as it stands) 2. I have PC-TeX and PCDOT and a previewer Viewmax which uses the latters fonts to give an aceptable preview on a PC AT with EGA or Hercules board. Do there exist other systems that would enable a preview on an IBM mainframe accessed via a PC running a 3270 emulator of some kind (eg YTERM)? 3. Do there exist analogues of the Mac program Sweet-TeX (TeX preprocessor) for PC compatible word processing packages such as ChiWriter or indeed WordPerfect ? I would be pleased to get your comments on these points or be put in touch with someone else who might be able to help. Thanks, Alan Irving D.A.M.T.P (Liverpool University) --------------------------------- Received: from UKACRL by UK.AC.RL.IB (Mailer X1.25) with BSMTP id 6283; Thu, 01 Jun 89 13:22:07 BS Received: from HLERUL52.BITNET (OGIGUCHT) by UKACRL.BITNET (Mailer X1.25) with BSMTP id 4635; Thu, 01 Jun 89 13:22:06 Date: Thu, 1 Jun 89 14:26 N From: Subject: information X-Original-To: info-tex@aston.ac.uk, OGIGUCHTE L.S. I like to have some information about public domain versions of TeX, MetaFont and related software. Especially I'm looking for fonts for a 300 dpi laser printer (like the Apple Laser Writer). Where can I retrieve the software (if there is any)? Thanks in advance. Wisse J. van de Guchte University of Leiden. Leiden. The Netherlands. --------------------------------- Date: 01 Jun 89 15:08:24 bst From: G.Toal @ uk.ac.edinburgh Subject: Getting AFM Files from laser? Message-ID: <01 Jun 89 15:08:24 bst 050423@EMAS-A> Hello again netlanders - I'm still alive, -- just very subdued :) I want to construct a set of TFM files for our local typesetting system which we've upgraded to handle PostScript fonts. I see that James Clark has a way of converting afm files to pl files, and I'm sure I have a pl to tfm somewhere, but where do I get the afm files? What Ireally want is to generate those by running a bit of postscript in the printer which sends back an afm file. Is this what happens or am I being na\"\i ve? I think there are afm files in the archive but it would be preferable in the long term if we can make them ourselves; especially since one of our ps printers is a 2400dpi typesetter -- we'd quite like the metrics to correspond exactly to the device being used. Thanks everyone. Graham. (gtoal@uk.ac.ed) --------------------------------- Received: from caxton.ecs.soton.ac.uk by hilliard.ecs.soton.ac.uk; Mon, 29 May 89 16:55:47 BST From: spqr@uk.ac.soton.ecs Date: Mon, 29 May 89 16:58:57 BST Message-Id: <11777.8905291558@caxton.ecs.soton.ac.uk> Subject: Z macros Anyone who picks up Mike Spivey's LaTeX macros for typesetting Z may be interested in getting his later, more sophisicated, tools (see below). Sadly, these will cost you money. Sebastian Rahtz (thanks to Jonathan Bowen for this info) - ---------- However there is a new version of "zed.sty" called "fuzz.sty" with an associated manual (better than zmacros.tex) and a Z type-checker. These are being marketed by Mike Spivey. E-mail for further details. If there is a suitable spot for this information on the archive, you could add it. - ------------ --------------------------------- Date: 2-JUN-1989 15:26:52 GMT From: S050@UK.AC.EAST-ANGLIA.CPC865 Peter, Could you make available the Sedit (I suppose the "correct" name is really "\Sigma edit") documentation for OzTex. The file OZBIN.HQX doesn't seem to contain the documentation file. In a recent email conversation with Seb Rahtz he suggested that either you or Dave Osborne could do the necessary. Regards and thanks, Laurie Benfield. --------------------------------- Received: from SX05@UK.AC.LIVERPOOL by ISMAIL(3.2); 31 May 1989 17:19:19 BST Date: Wed, 31 May 89 17:02:45 BST From: "A.C.Irving" Subject: TeX User Group I have been given your name by my local Computing Service. TeX has only recently been made available on the central IBM3081 so there is only limited expertise here. I had a couple of queries which I thought someone involved with Tugboat(?) might be able to help with . Perhaps you could redirect them to someone more appropriate if necessary.? 1. Where can I get a list of current LaserPrinters for which device drivers are available? (e.g. We have a Centronics PP8 which I think is not suitable as it stands) 2. I have PC-TeX and PCDOT and a previewer Viewmax which uses the latters fonts to give an aceptable preview on a PC AT with EGA or Hercules board. Do there exist other systems that would enable a preview on an IBM mainframe accessed via a PC running a 3270 emulator of some kind (eg YTERM)? 3. Do there exist analogues of the Mac program Sweet-TeX (TeX preprocessor) for PC compatible word processing packages such as ChiWriter or indeed WordPerfect ? I would be pleased to get your comments on these points or be put in touch with someone else who might be able to help. Thanks, Alan Irving D.A.M.T.P (Liverpool University) --------------------------------- (paper mail) From:- M. N. Ullah 151, Gladstone Park Gardens London NW2 6RN Tel: 01 450 2989 Date 30.5.1989 Apology to Malcolm! It does work i.e. TeXtures does not crash any more. Only I have to quit in the Log button or type e and then Return. If I read the TeXture manual carefully I see it cleary: Print e and then Return. Small prints are so important in real life. Mohammed --------------------------------- Date: Mon, 05 Jun 89 11:39:49 From: Mike Piff Subject: Lumberjacks, etc. Piete Brooks asks how to use more of the page when previewing a file in LaTeX. The following should work. Put it after the \documentstyle line: \pagestyle{empty} %no header or footer \textwidth 8in %8in wide \textheight 11.25in %11.25in deep \oddsidemargin 0in %no extra space on \evensidemargin 0in %left... \topmargin 0in %or top \headheight 0in %header has zero height \footheight 0in %so does footer, but this parameter isn't used! \headsep 0in %no space header to text \footskip 0in %or text to footer \hoffset -.9in %left margin 1in-.9in=.1in \voffset -.9in %top margin 1in-.9in=.1in Knuth warns against changing \hoffset and \voffset when printing a file, as the printer may be so set up that it is incapable of using the left and top margins. On my screen, this arrangement is more difficult to read, as I have to keep scrolling left and right to see the long lines! Mike From +-------------------------------------+ | Dr M. J. Piff, | | Department of Pure Mathematics, | | University of Sheffield, | | The Hicks Building,Hounsfield Road, | | SHEFFIELD S3 7RH,England. | | Tel. SHEFFIELD(0742)768555 Ext 4431 | | JANET address: PM1MJP@UK.AC.SHEF.PA | +-------------------------------------+ --------------------------------- From: Farzin Deravi Date: Fri, 26 May 89 10:42:04-0000 Message-Id: <13462.8905260942@pyr.swan.ac.uk> Subject: PC Previewer Dear Peter Abbott Is there a TeX/DVI Previewer for PCs (with Hercules graphics) in the public domain? (possibly in TeX archives at Aston??). Thanks for your help. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Farzin Deravi, | UUCP : ...!ukc!pyr.swan.ac.uk!eederavi| Image Processing Laboratory, | JANET : eederavi@uk.ac.swan.pyr | Electrical Engineering Dept., | voice : +44 792 295583 | University of Wales, | Fax : +44 792 295532 | Swansea, SA2 8PP, U.K. | Telex : 48358 | - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - --------------------------------- Date: Tue, 06 Jun 89 09:39:31 BST From: RM111@UK.AC.CAMBRIDGE.PHOENIX Subject: Metafont on Sun 4 Message-ID: Dear Peter, Is there anyone out there who has experience of running Metafont on a Sun 4 Workstation? I should be grateful to hear about any problems before attempting this myself. Rod Mulvey Cambridge University Press --------------------------------- From: Luke Whitaker Date: Wed, 7 Jun 89 10:02:26 +0100 Message-Id: <8906070902.AA10303@uk.ac.city.cs> Subject: Problem hhcp'ing binary files from tex-archive I'm sure this problem has been thrashed to death already so apologies for that, but: I can't seem to hhcp binary files from the archive to my unix machine. (I am using a Gould PN6040 running UTX2.0, which is based on BSD 4.3). The transfers just hang, retrying indefinitely (well, > 24 hours anyway). Text files transfer without problems. The files I want are msxm10.*pk and msym10.*pk. Anyone got any ideas what I can do? Luke Whitaker. PS : I could get round this if the Metafont ms[xy]m10.mf files were in the archive, but they seem not to be. Anyone know why, or if I could get them? --------------------------------- Date: 7-JUN-1989 14:26:13 GMT From: FPS@UK.AC.IMPERIAL.CC.VAXA subject: GUTenberg \font\iteight=cmti8 \font\ttit=cmtt10 \def\talk#1#2{\medskip\noindent\ignorespaces{#1}}% \it #1\/}: #2.\quad} \def\TeXtures{{\sc\TeX\kern-0.1667em tures}} \def\<#1>{{\tt\char'074}#1{\tt\char'076}} \def\|{\ifmmode\Vert\else{\tt\char'174}\fi} \def\ukTUG{{\sc uk}\kern-0.2em\TeX} \let\Bf\bf \centerline{\Bf R\'eflexions sur le Congr\`es GUTenberg} \centerline{\bf Paris, Mai 16--17, 1989} \medskip \noindent The French \TeX\ users group has been around for a few years, in an `unofficial' form. Over the last year or so they have become `official', much more active and they now organise an annual meeting. The first well-publicised GUTenberg meeting was held in Paris last year. I was impressed there by the attendence (well over 100), the stamina (the room was tiny and without air-conditioning), and the range of topics covered. There is, in any case, a tradition of \TeX\ activity in France -- the second European \TeX\ Conference was held in Strasbourg, in 1986. This year's meeting was again in Paris, but used far larger rooms to accommodate the 120--150 people who attended. Scanning down the list of attendees, there are the usual academic and research organisations, but also publishers, and the printing trade in general. This bodes well for the future. The meeting was held over two days: the first day was given over to two seminars -- one on \LaTeX\ (from Olivier Nicole and Jacques Andr\'e), and the other on \MF\ (Victor Ostromoukhov); followed by the AGM. The second day was the conference proper. I attended part of Victor's `Premiers pas en \MF'. As usual, I was impressed by Victor's breadth and depth of \MF-lore. And he seemed to be getting something useful across to the forty or so would be \MF ers. Since he used a Macintosh to demonstrate the points, there was a reasonably quick interaction between intention and realisation. I confess I didn't stay to all of this; my powers of concentration are not great enough to follow a full day of technical \MF\ (far less in a foreign tongue). However, one quote from Victor: \centerline{\ $\rightarrow$ \\|\<\TeX>} \centerline{\<\TeX>$\rightarrow$\<\TeX82>\} \noindent That sums things up nicely I think. Bernard Gaulle, GUTenberg's President ran the AGM with great efficiency and some humour. I particularly like the French style of democracy (it runs: question -- `anyone against?'; answer -- `no'; conclusion -- `passed'; excellent). I won't plough through all the bits of the AGM, except to note that the group is in excellent financial health, that this is a year of anniversaries in France -- 200 years since the Revolution, but also some others: 10 years of TUG, 50 years of CNRS (Centre Nationale de la Recherche Scientifique), one of the homes of \TeX, and of course this is also the year of the 4th European \TeX\ Conference. The AGM honoured two people with `honorary membership': Barbara Beeton and Raymond Seroul (the author of {\sl Le petit Livre de \TeX})). By way of recognition, they were each presented with an edition of `Les bons Romans', published over a hyndred years ago. Peter Abbott was also thanked for the help he has given in easing `[les] perturbations {\sc earn}/Bitnet'. I was particularly pleased to see Barbara honoured and Peter thanked in this way. The whole \TeX\ community owes them much for their dedicated adherence to the cause, and it was particularly refreshing and tactful that GUTenberg saw fit to include them in this way. Besides this conference, GUTenberg produces its own journal, {\sl Cahiers GUTenberg}. The inaugural (or prototype) edition (confusingly numbered `z\'ero') was available at last year's conference. The first and second editions were out by this year's conference. Many of the talks in the conference were also printed in the {\sl Cahiers} (which helped me enormously). Although the group is `francophone', several articles are in English. Allowing for the technical words which dictionaries never seem to get right, it isn't too difficult to make sense out of the papers/articles. The {\sl Cahiers} represent a major undertaking, in time, effort, and in financial commitment (as I well know from my own limited venture in \TeXline). If the high standards already being established are maintained, GUTenberg will have created something which will be of great and lasting service to the whole \TeX\ community. My only minor criticism of the {\sl Cahiers} is the lack of consistency in the provision of abstracts (a failing it shares with TUGboat). If abstracts were included, it would be possible to prepare multilingual translations which could be circulated more widely, alerting others to the range and relevance of the material. The major theme of the Conference was `graphics' -- a popular one these days. Fortunately, thanks to Sebastian Rahtz' talks, I think I know a little about the background here. Rather than report each talk in detail, it is perhaps more productive to try to select some of the major themes. After all, the text of most of the talks is available. As usual, it is notable how far \LaTeX\ dominates in Europe (or perhaps, just outside the US). It is also notable that `standards', however defined, keep cropping up: X-Windows, \PS, \TeX\ itself, PHIGS, GKS, \sgml, and even emacs. This seems particularly healthy, although equally there are many forays into areas which are less portable. Nevertheless, the apparent domination of C, as the implementation language of choice, (with or without the spectre of Unix) would indicate the possibility of transfering some of the applications to other platforms. From the summaries, it is evident that one of the great concerns is the use of \PS, and the incorporation of \PS\ (and {\sc epsf}) files into (especially) \LaTeX. Perhaps my favourite paper was Maurice Laugier's. His was a very simple and straightforward idea -- namely that the pc's graphics characters may be napped quite easily into rules, and that tables (and some diagrams) may be prepared by this means, provided that a monospaced font is adequate. A list of the talks, together with a brief summary (usually the authors'/author's own) is included here. Some of the talks were in English (a bold move for a francophone group), and some summaries (notably that of Lance Carnes) were distributed in English and French. Very tactful. \talk{L'ann\'ee de tous les anniversaires}{Bernard Gaulle} A welcome to GUTenberg, and an overview of the services and facilities available to \TeX\ users in France (and elesewhere); touches on the public, private and commercial domains; addresses GUTenberg's relationship with the rest of the world. \talk{Xwindows, \LaTeX, \TeX draw et Plot79, ou comment calculer, r\'ediger, dessiner et imprimer plus ais\'ement}{Nicolas Brouard} A workstation running under X-Windows offers a way of calculating, writing and designing which is much simpler than with a `classic' terminal. Two graphics tools, \TeX Draw (a public analogue of MacDraw) and PLOT79 (a 3D graphics system based on CORE), can easily be employed with \LaTeX. \talk{\TeX\ and Graphics: the state of the problem}{Nelson Beebe} Inclusion of graphics in documents typset by \TeX\ is not yet a satisfactorily solved problem, and no final general solution is in sight. This paper surveys alternatives for insertion of graphics in \TeX\ documents. It summarizes graphics primitives of several modern software systems, and shows how \TeX\ has seriously deficient support for their direct incorporation in \TeX\ itself. \talk{L'environment de production de documents \TeX\ \`a l'IRISA}{Philippe Louarn \& Bertrand Decouty} The group consists of over 200 researchers, teachers and engineers, who need to produce reports, articles, theses, books\dots\ The objective was to provide a set of homogenous tools in a heterogenous environment (Unix, VMS, workstations, pcs\dots). Naturally, \TeX\ was chosen as the fundamental tool. In graphics, the two main avenues are through the incorportion of \PS, and by the use of {\tt eepic} in the \LaTeX\ picture environment. \talk{Survey of \TeX\ Graphics for the PC}{Lance Carnes}% This talk reviews the various graphics systems offerings for the IBM pc and compatibles, and the ways these systems can be used in conjunction with \TeX; the use of \PS, HP PCL and bitmap files in conjunction with current \TeX\ drivers; the use of output from screen oriented drawing systems; and the conversion of graphics files from one format to another, and scaling of images, for inclusion in documents. \talk{\TeX\ et les graphiques dans l'environment Mac}{Anestis Antoniadis} Painting and drawing are the two sides of the creation of graphics on the Macintosh. {\sl Paint\/} images (otherwise known as bitmaps) are known to the Mac as a set of points on the screen. {\sl Draw} images (also known as vector drawings) are known to the Mac as objects (rectangles, lines, circles, polygons) and are defined by their mathematical attributes. As a consequence of the way in which they are defined, they take full advantage of the resolution of \PS\ peripheral devices. The goal of this article is to give an overview of the methods and software for the generation of graphics on the Mac, and to discuss the insertion of such graphics in documents prepared with \TeXtures, one of the implementations of \TeX\ on the Macintosh. \talk{\MFsl\ et \PS}{Victor Ostromoukhov} Conversion between \MF\ and \PS\ is possible. What are the best techniques, and what are the constraints? (No written contribution, but see his Mac\MF\ program.) \talk{DDI: un environnement de travail pour la r\'ealisation de graphiques scientifiques, techniques et fantaisies utilisables avec \TeX}{Andr\'e Violante} DDI is a work environment for the creation of scientific, technical and artistic graphics. The fundamental of the system is the creation and use of graphic fonts. To use these, several tools are available: design software ({\tt Designcad}); a program to convert {\tt Designcad} files to \MF; \MF\ itself; GFtoPK; \TeX; and a suitable device driver. \talk{{\bf texpic}: design and implementation of a picture graphics language in \TeX\ \`a la {\ttit pic}}{Rolf Olejniczak} {\bf texpic} is a \TeX\ implementation of a graphics language similar to Kerhighan's {\tt troff} preprocessor {\tt pic}. The implmentation consists of two parts, a set of elaborate \TeX\ macros and a postprocessor for drawing (in the {\tt dvi} file). {\bf texpic} objects and \TeX\ or \LaTeX\ commands may be combined at will. {\bf texpic} is written in C, and is fully portable, to the extent that every \TeX\ implementation, every preview and every correctly written printer driver will work with {\bf texpic}. \talk{Traduction en \TeX\ d'un fichier \sgml\ avec r\'ecup\'eration des graphiques et des tableaux}{Maurice Laugier} The logic of \sgml\ markup is close to that of \LaTeX, and translation from \sgml\ to \LaTeX\ can be realised quite simply. However, the problem is rather different for graphics and tables. This paper presents a way in which the PC graphics characters were successfully mapped into \LaTeX, easing the production of tables and simple diagrams. \talk{GI\TeX, PAPS: deux logiciels minipulant \PS\ et \LaTeX}{Christophe C\'erin}From PC-based graphics programs, PAPS (Programme d'Application \PS) transforms an image into a \PS\ format. It will also allow some manipulation of the graphics image. GI\TeX\ (G\'en\'erateur d'Image \TeX) is a program which allows a {\tt figure} environment to be constructed for inclusion of the \PS\ into a \LaTeX\ file. \talk{L'incorporation de graphiques dans INRS\TeX}{\nl Michael Ferguson} The approach used in INRS\TeX\ is to use the power of the printer to create graphics, and not to introduce special characters. The capability to generate graphics has been achieved for \PS, and for QMS graphics on a QUIC laser printer. Th paper discusses the role of the printer as well as the need for support software to permit the incorporation of graphics produced by other systems. The paper also discusses some of the limitations inherent in the choice of graphics systems. Like most conferences, the most interesting and valuable discussions take place in the corridors, over coffee, or at lunch. This tradition was maintained here. The corridors were also used to display various pieces of \TeX ware. The inclusion of a noticeboard for general \TeX-notices, trivial as it seems, was extremely useful. There was a display of ArborText's Publisher (about the only place you don't see Publisher these days is in the UK), and an extensive display of books, where Raymond Seroul's book was selling well (on its first day of publication). \medskip \leftline{\Bf Conclusion} \noindent I was impressed. There can be no doubt about it, GUTenberg provides us all with much to emulate. The strength and coherence of the group is manifest. Taken purely at the national (or francophone) level, GUTenberg is contributing massively to the strength of \TeX. The {\sl Cahiers} are excellent, and looks capable of sustained quality. The annual meeting is now well-established and imaginative. GUTenberg's involvement with several French publishers must also be a good sign. GUTenberg is also keenly aware of other French speaking areas (Belgium, Switzerland, Quebec) and of the advantages of international electronic communication. And the committee ensured that the various national representatives (myself, representing TUG and \ukTUG; Joachim Lammarsch, representing the German group, Dante; and Kees van der Laan representing the Dutch group) had the opportunity to discuss how we could cooperate for the common good. I am a shade worried by what I see as the determination to stay outside the TUG orbit. Perhaps I am over-sensitive -- being described either as English or Anglo-Saxon does tend to make me a trifle testy -- but I have always thought of TUG as an international organisation, not an American one. Others do not share this perception. If our conclusion is that we are not getting what we need out of TUG, the solution is in our own hands. We can influence the organisations in which we participate. That's the key -- participation. \TeX\ must be worth it. \medskip \leftline{\Bf Joining GUTenberg; subscribing to the Cahiers} \noindent To join GUTenberg, you need only part with 200 FF. This has two advantages (besides preparing you for 1992 and demonstrating your adherance to the European ideal) -- it enables you to pay a reduced fee at the annual meeting and for the {\sl Cahiers}. To obtain the {\sl Cahiers} costs a further 150 FF if you are a member, but 250 FF if you are not. This year's conference cost 200 FF for members and 400 FF for non-members. Clearly membership pays for itself if you are contemplating attending the conference and taking the journal. In other words, joining GUTenberg and subscribing to the {\sl Cahiers} costs you a total of 350 FF (made payable to GUTenberg). Of course Eurocheques are acceptable. Note that membership comes in several different categories: individual membership is 200 FF; institutional membership on behalf of a non-profit organisation is 700 FF; while institutional membership on behalf of profit-making (as opposed to {\it profitable}?) organisation is a hefty 1400 FF. On the other hand, institutional membership does allow you to nominate up to seven individuals. Send your money to: {\obeylines \quad GUTenberg \quad c/o IRISA \quad Campus Universitaire de Beaulieu \quad 35042 Rennes Cedex \quad France } \rightline{\sl Malcolm Clark} --------------------------------- Date: Thu, 08 Jun 89 10:39:05 BST From: Roger.Gawley @ uk.ac.durham Subject: Help requested with parallel language setting Message-id: Has anybody already done this? I am helping someone who needs to produce a number of displays like this (9) i) y bachgen a welodd y ci the boy COMP saw-3s the dog `the boy who saw the dog' `the dog who saw the boy' ii) y bachgen a welodd t y ci iii) y bachgen a welodd y ci t The first two lines are parallel sentences in Welsh and English; the rest of the lines have no internal alignment but should align at the start. We do it at the moment using an \halign with an untidy combinbation of \omits and \spans. This works but the typing is messy and the individual haligns do not align with each other. It really wants a combination of \settabs for the first two columns with \halign for the parallel language parts. If this looks familiar and you think you have already done something like it, would you mail your solution to me? Thanks in advance, Roger.Gawley@UK.AC.Durham --------------------------------- Date: Thu, 8 JUN 89 16:37:45 BST From: TEX@UK.AC.CRANFIELD.RMCS Subject: RE: Maintaining LARGE files in the TeX archive Sender: JANET"TEX@UK.AC.CRANFIELD.RMCS" Message-Id: <0000029A_000698B0.00925F94A4D24D00$10_2@UK.AC.CRANFIELD.RMCS> Originally-to: JANET%UK.AC.UMIST.CN.PA::YMUMMD Originally-from:TEX "RMCS TeX Account" Mailer: Janet_Mailshr V3.4 (23-May-1989) In UKTeX v89 #20, Mike Glendinning writes that he'd like to see some method of disseminating the CHANGES only between two generations of a large file (such as TEX.WEB). Adrian Clark responds in the same issue, pointing out the problems that this would cause to non-VMS sites, but since Mike specifically instances my DVItoLN03 (which is VMS-only), perhaps I should reply. The problem with a DIFFerences file for DVItoLN03.WEB is that there were so many changes between V2.1 and V3.0 that the differences file would have been almost as large as the original WEB --- now admittedly that's still some way short of the size of the new WEB, but it's still pretty large! I will accept that a file to drive SUMSLP (produced with DIFF/SLP) would have been smaller than this, but it would still have been quite large (and occupied disk space at Aston). (Besides which, I'm never very confident of things which rely upon line numbers to perform edits, without any checks that the correct text is being replaced. Of course, whilst I was developing the new version, I worked with a WEB change file, and could have distributed that, but again it was as large as the old WEB source.) Brian {Hamilton Kelly} .-------------------------------------------------------------------------. | JANET: tex@uk.ac.cranfield.rmcs | | BITNET: tex%uk.ac.cranfield.rmcs@ac.uk | | INTERNET: tex%uk.ac.cranfield.rmcs@nsfnet-relay.ac.uk | | Smail: School of Electrical Engineering & Science, Royal Military | | College of Science, Shrivenham, SWINDON SN6 8LA, U.K. | | Phone: Swindon (0793) 785252 (UK), +44-793-785252 (International) | `-------------------------------------------------------------------------' --------------------------------- Received: from UKACRL by UK.AC.RL.IB (Mailer X1.25) with BSMTP id 6666; Thu, 08 Jun 89 17:42:39 BS Received: from ASTRPD.INFN.IT by UKACRL.BITNET (Mailer X1.25) with BSMTP id 0709; Thu, 08 Jun 89 17:42:39 Message-id: <6129> Date: Thu, 8 JUN 89 18:40 N From: FISICA@IT.INFN.ASTRPD Subject: TeX archive on SPAN X-Original-To: info-tex@aston.ac.uk, FISICA Hello TeX-ers, this is to inform you that almost all the material at the archive-server at sun.soe.clarkson.edu is also contained in the SPAN archive at: 39003::dua0:[tex...] and 39947::usr$disk:[texnet...] Files can be directly copied from SPAN. 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