UKTeX V89 #37 Friday 13 October 1989 BibTeX style files (again) TeX for suns DOS TeX distribution DECUS TeX mailserver info A LaTeX style file to track size-changing commands using Cyrillic tex books Thesis.sty Re: HP LaserJet II drivers? HP LaserJet II drivers? dvitps Help on using Aston mail server from the USA Installing DOSTeX v2.93a Re: Flush right for text DINA4.STY UKTeX users group Empty parameters to macros Access to the European TeXserver at Aston Problems installing DosTeX 2.93a TEX server Apple Laserwriter Drivers * Announcing Weave V3.0-2 for Vax/VMS * * Announcing TeX V2.991-10 for Vax/VMS * * Announcing Tangle V3 for Vax/VMS * DviToPS on Primes sb26tex - first impressions favourable TeX on the Atari ST - some experiences Thesis styles, Latex ... THESIS.STY complying to BS4821:1972 Editor Peter Abbott Issue 38 will be delayed one week to October 27 1989. Latest TeXhax in the Archive is #90 Latest TeXmag in the Archive is V3N3 --------------------------------- Via: UK.AC.NOTTINGHAM.PRODENG; Thu, 5 Oct 89 11:07 BST Via: uk.ac.nottingham.ccc.vme; Thu, 05 Oct 89 11:11:08 GMT (NMPA/19.302r) Date: Thu, 5 Oct 89 11:06:40 BST From: David_Rhead@uk.ac.nottingham.ccc.vme Subject: BibTeX style files (again) Message-ID: < 5 Oct 89 11:06:40 A1008A@UK.AC.NOTT.VME> You'll probably see an entry from me earlier in this issue, in which I suggested that a bst file that aimed to conform to the British Standards for citations and bibliographies would be A GOOD THING. (Since the BS allow for a range of possibilities, and for different interpretations, there could actually be more that one such bst file.) Since I sent the entry, I've been trying to produce such a bst file. More specifically, I've been trying to produce a bst file that: - conforms to the BS in content and in BS-preferred ordering - takes the typography of the BS as representative of British practice and tries to imitate it. (Thus, although the BS does not specify the typography, I'm taking the BS as indicative of UK mainstream practice.) If the BS is vague on a point, I refer to "Copy-editing" by Butcher (and I look at her for typography too, since the BSI seems to have a non-mainstream house-style). If she is vague (or suggests something that is difficult in BibTeX/LaTeX), I try the Chicago Manual of Style. By starting from apalike.bst, apalike.sty and aaai.sty, I've got bst and sty files that achieve what I had in mind in simple cases, but still have a few misplaced commas and full-stops in more complicated cases. This has all been at the hacking level, rather than the "understanding what I'm doing" level. (In certain complicated cases, I don't think that any amount of understanding of BibTeX would enable someone to produce entries as shown in the BS, but I think that such cases arise so rarely that they're not worth bothering about.) I don't think I'll have time to become one of the six to ten UK people that Malcolm postulates may wish to learn about the inner workings of BibTeX. However, if any of the "six to ten" also happen to be interested in having a BS-like bst file, I'd be most willing to let them have the files I've produced so far for them to "do an iteration" on. David Rhead --------------------------------- Via: UK.AC.WARWICK.SOL; Thu, 5 Oct 89 11:25 GMT Received: from amazon by sol.warwick.ac.uk; Thu, 5 Oct 89 11:24:12 +0100 Received: from newton.warwick.ac.uk by amazon.warwick.ac.uk; Thu, 5 Oct 89 11:28:10 BST From: Ben Mestel Date: Thu, 5 Oct 89 11:21:39 BST Message-Id: <22031.8910051021@newton.warwick.ac.uk> Subject: TeX for suns Dear Peter Abbott We are hoping to install TeX on our SUN system in the Mathematics Department at Exeter (I know I am sending this from Warwick - old habits die hard!). We have 1 sun 3/60, 2 sun 3/50 and 1 sun 4. Wewould probably like to install TeX on the Sun 4. Could you tell me whether the tape you advertise in the UKTeX bulletins is suitable for the SUNS. We are particularly interested in having a pre-compiled version of TeX and also a good previewer. Thanks for your help Ben Mestel Mathematics Department University of Exeter North Park Road Exeter EX4 4QE Tel: 0392 - 263263 x. 3987 0392 - 55841 --------------------------------- Via: UK.AC.UCL.EUCLID; Thu, 5 Oct 89 12:23 BST From: Wujastyk (on GEC 4190 Rim-B at UCL) Date: Thu, 5 Oct 89 12:18 Subject: DOS TeX distribution Message-Id: <05 OCT 1989 12:22:29 UCGADKW@UK.AC.UCL.EUCLID> Peter, You have been distributing OZTeX for some time now, as an Archive service. I believe you have plans to do something similar for a DOS version of TeX. I have recently had several people asking me for TeX for their PCs, and I don't want to go through the trouble of preparing disks, documentation, etc., if you are going to release something in the near future. Anything I give out will be based on the excellent sb26tex, and Beebe's drivers. What is much needed is a really good, general purpose screen previewer in the pd. All the ones I have played with have some restriction or other. DVIEW is the most promising, I feel, if Ward can broaden it to accept pk files (not just pxl) and to scale up and down from printer-resolution fonts. Dominik *************************************************************************** Editor - Our plans provide for distrbution of software on diskettes but I anticipate that it will NOT start until early in 1990. The main problem is preparing the procedures to automate as far as possible the production of diskettes according to the requests. The archivegroup held a meeting on Tuesday October 10 and this subject was discussed. Other items included the provision of a 00read.me and 00files.txt in EVERY subdirectory. Further announcements will be made in the near future. *************************************************************************** --------------------------------- Via: UK.AC.QUEENS-BELFAST.CENTRE.VAX1; Thu, 5 Oct 89 15:41 BST Date: Thu, 5 Oct 89 15:37 BST From: AGBG1787@UK.AC.QUEENS-BELFAST.CENTRE.VAX1 Subject: DECUS TeX Peter - Here is the first message I sent: We are interested in obtaining the DECUS TeX Collection (Aug '89 ref VS0058) as mentioned in a recent TeXhax announcement. (Also mentioned in TUGBOAT Vol 10 No. 2, p196 July 1989.) Do you have access to this collection? Could you let us have a copy? Thanks, Mike Davison *************************************************************************** Editor - I have a DECUS tape but have no idea of the date of creation. If someone can supply a master we can add it to the list of copyable tapes. *************************************************************************** --------------------------------- Via: UK.AC.EDINBURGH.EMAS-A; Thu, 5 Oct 89 16:52 GMT Date: 05 Oct 89 16:52:34 bst From: G.Toal Subject: mailserver info Message-ID: <05 Oct 89 16:52:34 bst 050259@EMAS-A> Peter, I was looking out info on the mailserver for a friend at acorn who wanted to get the latex style files, and discovered that the text at the bottom of the uktex newsletter describes ftp access but not mail access. Could you perhaps add a short (4 lines?) note on how to ask for the basic help file? One more suggestion: we ask texhax to put a subscription address for uktex at the end of their newsletter, and we do likewise for them! (Clearly there is no point in putting the uktex address in uktex since to read the message you already get the mail :-)) Graham. *************************************************************************** Editor - The `tail' will be rewritten as soon as time permits. *************************************************************************** --------------------------------- Via: UK.AC.CRANFIELD.RMCS; Thu, 5 Oct 89 20:05 BST Date: Thu, 5 OCT 89 19:28:26 BST From: TEX@UK.AC.CRANFIELD.RMCS Subject: A LaTeX style file to track size-changing commands using Cyrillic Sender: JANET"TEX@UK.AC.CRANFIELD.RMCS" Message-Id: <00001024_00111388.0092BD2F34497E20$15_1@UK.AC.CRANFIELD.RMCS> Acknowledge-to: RMCS TeX Account Originally-to: UKTEX,TEXHAX Originally-from:TEX "RMCS TeX Account" Mailer: Janet_Mailshr V3.4 (23-May-1989) In response to a query in TeXhax V89 #88 concerning the use of Cyrillic in sizes other than the default, I feel it's time to release the following style file. It was written last year by my colleague Niel Kempson and myself, and the same principles are used in my GREEK.STY to provide similar support for use with my Greek fonts. It associates additional commands with each of LaTeX's size-changing commands through the use of the \@addfontinfo command, such that the \cyr and \cyb commands select the appropriately magnified font. Brian {Hamilton Kelly} +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ + JANET: tex@uk.ac.cranfield.rmcs + + BITNET: tex%uk.ac.cranfield.rmcs@ac.uk + + INTERNET: tex%uk.ac.cranfield.rmcs@nsfnet-relay.ac.uk + + Smail: School of Electrical Engineering & Science, Royal Military + + College of Science, Shrivenham, SWINDON SN6 8LA, U.K. + + Phone: Swindon (0793) 785252 (UK), +44-793-785252 (International) + +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ P.S. Of course, nowadays it should be converted to use Schoepf and Mittelbach's new font coding scheme. P.P.S. It won't work with SliTeX --- I don't suppose anyone feels like rewriting SFONTS.TEX to use a similar selection mechanism to LFONTS.TEX? % %------------------------------cut here------------------------------------ % % CYRILLIC.STY - 08-SEP-1988 % ~~~~~~~~~~~~ % % Allow LaTeX to use the AMS cyrillic fonts. % % \cyr - cyrillic % \cyb - cyrillic bold % % % AUTHORS: Niel Kempson & Brian Hamilton Kelly, % School of Electrical Engineering and Science, % Royal Military College of Science, % Shrivenham, % SWINDON % SN6 8LA % ENGLAND % % Telephone: (+793) 785687 / 785252 % JANET: tex@uk.ac.cranfield.rmcs % % % Input the hyphenation and transliteration macros. % \input cyracc.def % % The fonts are loaded on demand, but don't demand too many or LaTeX % will exhaust its font memory. % \def\cyr{\protect\pcyr} \def\cyb{\protect\pcyb} \def\m@cyr{mcyr10} \def\m@cyb{mcyb10} \newfam\cyrfam \newfam\cybfam \@addfontinfo\@vpt{\def\pcyr{\@prtct\cyr@vpt\@prtct\cyracc}} \@addfontinfo\@vipt{\def\pcyr{\@prtct\cyr@vipt\@prtct\cyracc}} \@addfontinfo\@viipt{\def\pcyr{\@prtct\cyr@viipt\@prtct\cyracc}} \@addfontinfo\@viiipt{\def\pcyr{\@prtct\cyr@viiipt\@prtct\cyracc}} \@addfontinfo\@ixpt{\def\pcyr{\@prtct\cyr@ixpt\@prtct\cyracc}} \@addfontinfo\@xpt{\def\pcyr{\@prtct\cyr@xpt\@prtct\cyracc}} \@addfontinfo\@xipt{\def\pcyr{\@prtct\cyr@xipt\@prtct\cyracc}} \@addfontinfo\@xiipt{\def\pcyr{\@prtct\cyr@xiipt\@prtct\cyracc}} \@addfontinfo\@xivpt{\def\pcyr{\@prtct\cyr@xivpt\@prtct\cyracc}} \@addfontinfo\@xviipt{\def\pcyr{\@prtct\cyr@xviipt\@prtct\cyracc}} \@addfontinfo\@xxpt{\def\pcyr{\@prtct\cyr@xxpt\@prtct\cyracc}} \@addfontinfo\@xxvpt{\def\pcyr{\@prtct\cyr@xxvpt\@prtct\cyracc}} \@addfontinfo\@vpt{\def\pcyb{\@prtct\cyb@vpt\@prtct\cyracc}} \@addfontinfo\@vipt{\def\pcyb{\@prtct\cyb@vipt\@prtct\cyracc}} \@addfontinfo\@viipt{\def\pcyb{\@prtct\cyb@viipt\@prtct\cyracc}} \@addfontinfo\@viiipt{\def\pcyb{\@prtct\cyb@viiipt\@prtct\cyracc}} \@addfontinfo\@ixpt{\def\pcyb{\@prtct\cyb@ixpt\@prtct\cyracc}} \@addfontinfo\@xpt{\def\pcyb{\@prtct\cyb@xpt\@prtct\cyracc}} \@addfontinfo\@xipt{\def\pcyb{\@prtct\cyb@xipt\@prtct\cyracc}} \@addfontinfo\@xiipt{\def\pcyb{\@prtct\cyb@xiipt\@prtct\cyracc}} \@addfontinfo\@xivpt{\def\pcyb{\@prtct\cyb@xivpt\@prtct\cyracc}} \@addfontinfo\@xviipt{\def\pcyb{\@prtct\cyb@xviipt\@prtct\cyracc}} \@addfontinfo\@xxpt{\def\pcyb{\@prtct\cyb@xxpt\@prtct\cyracc}} \@addfontinfo\@xxvpt{\def\pcyb{\@prtct\cyb@xxvpt\@prtct\cyracc}} \def\cyr@vpt{% \@subfont\cyr\rm \let\cyr@vpt=\relax} \def\cyr@vipt{% \@getfont\pcyr\cyrfam\@vipt{mcyr6}% \let\cyr@vipt=\relax} \def\cyr@viipt{% \@getfont\pcyr\cyrfam\@viipt{mcyr7}% \let\cyr@viipt=\relax} \def\cyr@viiipt{% \@getfont\pcyr\cyrfam\@viiipt{mcyr8}% \let\cyr@viiipt=\relax} \def\cyr@ixpt{% \@getfont\pcyr\cyrfam\@ixpt{mcyr9}% \let\cyr@ixpt=\relax} \def\cyr@xpt{% \@getfont\pcyr\cyrfam\@xpt{\m@cyr}% \let\cyr@xpt=\relax} \def\cyr@xipt{% \@getfont\pcyr\cyrfam\@xipt{\m@cyr\@halfmag}% \let\cyr@xipt=\relax} \def\cyr@xiipt{% \@getfont\pcyr\cyrfam\@xipt{\m@cyr\@magscale1}% \let\cyr@xiipt=\relax} \def\cyr@xivpt{% \@getfont\pcyr\cyrfam\@xipt{\m@cyr\@magscale2}% \let\cyr@xivpt=\relax} \def\cyr@xviipt{% \@getfont\pcyr\cyrfam\@xipt{\m@cyr\@magscale3}% \let\cyr@xviipt=\relax} \def\cyr@xxpt{% \@getfont\pcyr\cyrfam\@xipt{\m@cyr\@magscale4}% \let\cyr@xxpt=\relax} \def\cyr@xxvpt{% \@getfont\pcyr\cyrfam\@xipt{\m@cyr\@magscale5}% \let\cyr@xxvpt=\relax} \def\cyb@vpt{% \@subfont\cyb\cyr \let\cyb@vpt=\relax} \def\cyb@vipt{% \@subfont\cyb\cyr \let\cyb@vipt=\relax} \def\cyb@viipt{% \@subfont\cyb\cyr \let\cyb@viipt=\relax} \def\cyb@viiipt{% \@getfont\pcyb\cybfam\@viiipt{mcyb8}% \let\cyb@viiipt=\relax} \def\cyb@ixpt{% \@getfont\pcyb\cybfam\@ixpt{mcyb9}% \let\cyb@ixpt=\relax} \def\cyb@xpt{% \@getfont\pcyb\cybfam\@xpt{\m@cyb}% \let\cyb@xpt=\relax} \def\cyb@xipt{% \@getfont\pcyb\cybfam\@xipt{\m@cyb\@halfmag}% \let\cyb@xipt=\relax} \def\cyb@xiipt{% \@getfont\pcyb\cybfam\@xipt{\m@cyb\@magscale1}% \let\cyb@xiipt=\relax} \def\cyb@xivpt{% \@getfont\pcyb\cybfam\@xipt{\m@cyb\@magscale2}% \let\cyb@xivpt=\relax} \def\cyb@xviipt{% \@getfont\pcyb\cybfam\@xipt{\m@cyb\@magscale3}% \let\cyb@xviipt=\relax} \def\cyb@xxpt{% \@getfont\pcyb\cybfam\@xipt{\m@cyb\@magscale4}% \let\cyb@xxpt=\relax} \def\cyb@xxvpt{% \@getfont\pcyb\cybfam\@xipt{\m@cyb\@magscale5}% \let\cyb@xxvpt=\relax} %------------------------------and here------------------------------------ --------------------------------- Via: UK.AC.NSFNET-RELAY; Fri, 6 Oct 89 10:39 BST Received: from math.ams.com by NSFnet-Relay.AC.UK via NSFnet with SMTP id aa00534; 6 Oct 89 7:23 BST Date: Thu 5 Oct 89 10:17:59-EST From: bbeeton Subject: tex books Message-ID: <623600279.0.BNB@MATH.AMS.COM> Mail-System-Version: presumabp.g. collis asks for more information on some book references he's seen in texhax and texmag. here is what i know about the specific books he mentioned. stephan bechtolsheim, another look at tex -- published by springer verlag, and should appear, presumably, very soon; the last communication i had from stephan on the subject said september. don't know the isbn. arthur samuel, first grade tex, and mike urban, a guide to tex for the troff user -- both published by the tex users group and available from them. for prices and further information, send a message to tug@math.ams.com on the u.s. internet. stephan's book will also be available from tug, though that's not the most practical option from the u.k. -- barbara beeton --------------------------------- Via: UK.AC.HERIOT-WATT.CLUSTER; Fri, 6 Oct 89 16:51 BST Date: Fri, 6 Oct 89 16:48 BST From: Sandy Yates Subject: Thesis.sty Can you help me. I am writing my doctoral thesis soon and I wanted to use the LATEX present it. Can you tell me if anyone has produced a "THESIS.STY" that will do this. SUTHESIS.STY and MITTHESIS.STY are not correct for the British theses. Can you help? Thank you, Sandy --------------------------------- Via: UK.AC.NOTTINGHAM.COMPUTER-SCIENCE; Sat, 7 Oct 89 13:03 BST Received: from robin.cs.nott.ac.uk by much.Cs.Nott.AC.UK id aa19817; 7 Oct 89 13:00 BST Received: from clan by Robin.Cs.Nott.AC.UK id aa09902; 7 Oct 89 13:00 BST Subject: Re: HP LaserJet II drivers? Reply-To: d.osborne@uk.ac.nott.clan In-reply-to: Sebastian Rahtz's message of Sat, 30 Sep 89 15:26:59 -0000. <6942.8909301426@alonzo.ecs.soton.ac.uk> X-Organization: Cripps Computing Centre, University of Nottingham, UK X-Postal: University Park, Nottingham NG7 2RD, England X-Phone: +44 (602) 484848 ext 2064 Date: Sat, 07 Oct 89 13:01:49 BST Message-ID: <7729.623764909@clan> From: David Osborne in Sebastian's message of Sat, 30 Sep 89 15:26:59 -0000, he said: > A colleague here has asked me to forward the following question: > > do you run TeX on a VMS Vax and get output on an HP LaserJet II? if > so, what driver do you use, where did you get it, and can we have a copy? > we have been working with the Beebe drivers but cannot get proper > output. the crucial thing is in setting up the way VMS deals with the printer. back in the now distant days when we were going to offer a TeX service on our Vaxes, the first usable laser printer we had for TeX output was a new LJ II which i re-directed into the machine room on its way to one of our secretaries' desks. (we had, and still have, a Xerox 3700, but i don't count that as a usable printer!) i still remember the first page of TeX output coming out on the LJ II... the DVI driver i used was Nelson Beebe's DVIJEP, which i had to modify slightly to cope with the minor differences between the way a LaserJet Plus and a II take downloaded fonts. however, later updates which Nelson made to DVIJEP mean that it can be used to drive either a Plus or a II; i've printed output from version 2.10 of DVIJEP on the same LJ II printer. we first ran the LJ plugged into a terminal port (TXD0:, in this case) on the back of the VAX 750. to set that up, i used the following command while logged in as SYSTEM: $ SET TERMINAL TXD0:/PERM/NOBROADCAST/NOTYPEAHEAD/NOWRAP/SPEED=9600- /NOMODEM/WIDTH=80/PAGE=0/DEVICE=UNKNOWN/EIGHTBIT/NOSCOPE/PASTHRU setting /EIGHTBIT and /PASTHRU is very important, since the font download data will otherwise be corrupted. then, if i remember rightly, i could get the output to the printer by simply copying the DVIJEP output file to TXD0:. the next step was to define a queue so the output could be spooled using the PRINT command, which was done using: $ INITIALIZE/QUEUE/OWNER=[OPERATORS]/DEFAULT=NOFLAG/ENABLE- /TERM/PROTECTION=(SYSTEM:E,OWNER:D,GROUP:R,WORLD:WR)/on=TXD0: LASERJET we later called the queue CC_LJ2, and here's its current setup: $ show queue cc_lj2/all/full Printer queue CC_LJ2, stopped, on VAXA::NETPR$CC_LJ2, mounted form LJ2TEX (stock=SS01) /BASE_PRIORITY=4 /BLOCK_LIMIT=500 /DEFAULT=(FEED,FLAG, FORM=LJ2TEX (stock=SS01)) /LIBRARY=CCCDEVCTL /OWNER=[OPERATORS] /PROCESSOR=NETSYMB /PROTECTION=(S:E,O:ED,G:R,W:RW) we defined a form LJ2TEX for sending TeX output to the queue, so that system banner pages would be correctly printed: $ show queue/form lj2tex/all/full Form name Number Description - ------- ------ ----------- LJ2TEX (stock=SS01) 511 A4 white XEROX paper /LENGTH=70 /SETUP=(LJ2TEX) /STOCK=SS01 /WIDTH=93 things have changed a bit since i did this. there's now a different print symbiont, NETSYMB, which can drive remote printers connected to PAD ports, for example. if you need more info on this, i can direct you to a colleague who is more involved in VMS stuff than myself. dave osborne --------------------------------- Via: UK.AC.SOUTHAMPTON.ECS; Sat, 7 Oct 89 15:21 BST Received: from alonzo.ecs.soton.ac.uk by hilliard.ecs.soton.ac.uk; Sat, 7 Oct 89 15:24:57 BST From: Sebastian Rahtz Date: Sat, 7 Oct 89 15:22:26 BST Message-Id: <2206.8910071422@alonzo.ecs.soton.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: David Osborne's message of Sat, 07 Oct 89 13:01:49 BST <7729.623764909@clan> Subject: HP LaserJet II drivers? hey! good stuff! thats the sort of material that will get these people off my back. thanks. i also noted a new dvi2lj announced in the last UK TeX. I'll give them that too, and they can go away and play sebastian --------------------------------- Via: UK.AC.SOUTHAMPTON.ECS; Sat, 7 Oct 89 15:29 BST Received: from alonzo.ecs.soton.ac.uk by hilliard.ecs.soton.ac.uk; Sat, 7 Oct 89 15:32:45 BST From: Sebastian Rahtz Date: Sat, 7 Oct 89 15:30:14 BST Message-Id: <2214.8910071430@alonzo.ecs.soton.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: ABBOTTP@uk.ac.aston.kirk's message of Sat, 7 OCT 89 09:40:05 GMT <26144.8910070845@hilliard.ecs.soton.ac.uk> Subject: dvitps From: N.Chapman@uk.ac.ucl.cs is the dvitps system, described by stephan v. bechtolsheim in tugboat 10(1) available in the archive? i am reluctant to send him $110, but the ftp on this machine doesn't know about the address he gives (csseq.tamu.edu). hold your horses for a short while. a) he has changed machines, and b) the software doesn't seem to be on his new machine yet. I got a copy from somewhere (june.washington, I think), but I recommend waiting until he releases a new version imminently which will support A4 paper, instead of just legal or US letter as before. if you want to get the current version in a hurry, you can FTP it from my machine; otherwise I will put a copy at Aston when Stephan releases his revision. There are a few things in dvitps you won't find elsewhere, but I'd say that the vast majority of the features are also found in dvitops, which is much smaller and easier to deal with. Sebastian Rahtz --------------------------------- Via: UK.AC.NSFNET-RELAY; Sat, 7 Oct 89 16:03 BST Received: from sharkey.cc.umich.edu by NSFnet-Relay.AC.UK via NSFnet with SMTP id aa05627; 7 Oct 89 14:40 BST Received: from ummts.cc.umich.edu by sharkey.cc.umich.edu (5.61/gossip-1.1) id AA22125; Sat, 7 Oct 89 09:38:48 -0400 Date: Sat, 7 Oct 89 09:42:04 EDT From: Steve_Tinney@edu.umich.cc.um Message-Id: <5003477@um.cc.umich.edu> Subject: Help on using Aston mail server from the USA Sender: Steve_Tinney%edu.umich.cc.um@edu.umich.cc.sharkey Is it possible to get stuff from the Aston archive from the USA? If so, could you send me your (probably standard) instructions on how? Thanks, Steve Tinney. *************************************************************************** Editor - Details can be found elsewhere in this issue. *************************************************************************** --------------------------------- Via: UK.AC.CRANFIELD.RMCS; Sat, 7 Oct 89 18:43 BST Date: Sat, 7 OCT 89 18:35:24 BST From: TEX@UK.AC.CRANFIELD.RMCS Subject: Installing DOSTeX v2.93a Sender: JANET"TEX@UK.AC.CRANFIELD.RMCS" Message-Id: <0000102F_000684A8.0092BEBA1DF8E0C0$12_3@UK.AC.CRANFIELD.RMCS> Acknowledge-to: RMCS TeX Account Originally-to: CBS%UK.AC.CITY::SD385 Originally-from:TEX "RMCS TeX Account" Mailer: Janet_Mailshr V3.4 (23-May-1989) There was indeed a problem with the DosTeX that I loaded onto the Aston archive --- for some reason, all of the files within the ZIP files have acquired an extra 2 bytes !! I can't explain how, but I can tell you that I've rebuilt the files and sent the new versions to Aston. I have also downloaded, decoded and extracted the files successfully. Sorry about that! Niel Kempson (pp Aston archive group) +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ + JANET: tex@uk.ac.cranfield.rmcs + + BITNET: tex%uk.ac.cranfield.rmcs@ukacrl + + INTERNET: tex%uk.ac.cranfield.rmcs@nsfnet-relay.ac.uk + + Smail: School of Electrical Engineering & Science, Royal Military + + College of Science, Shrivenham, SWINDON SN6 8LA, U.K. + + Phone: Swindon (0793) 785687 (UK), +44-793-785687 (International) + +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ --------------------------------- Via: UK.AC.UKC; Mon, 9 Oct 89 9:35 GMT Received: from a.gec-epl.co.uk by kestrel.Ukc.AC.UK via PSS (UKC CAMEL FTP) id aa05498; 9 Oct 89 9:33 BST Original-Via: SUNFS; Mon, 9 Oct 89 09:21 (V30 at UK.CO.GEC-EPL) From: Don_Ward@uk.co.gec-epl Date: Mon, 9 Oct 89 09:22:29 BST Subject: Re: Flush right for text Sender: Don_Ward%uk.co.gec-epl%sunfs@uk.co.gec-epl.a On page 106 of the TeXbook (6th printing 1986) there is a macro called \signed which seems to do almost exactly what you want. You didn't say whether you were using LaTeX or just TeX; I guess you'll have to experiment if the former. Hope this helps. Don Ward Systems Design Division GEC Electrical Projects Ltd Email: Don_Ward@gec-epl.co.uk Boughton Road, Rugby, CV21 1BU UK. Tel: (+44 788 or 0788) 542144 *************************************************************************** Editor - Don Hosek also pointed out the same fact. Mike Piff typed in the text as reproduced here. Thanks to all the others as well. Peter, The left-and-right-justified trick is solved in The TeXBook, p106. \def\leftrt#1#2{{\par\noindent #1\unskip\nobreak\hfil\penalty50\hskip2em\hbox{}% \nobreak\hfil #2 \parfillskip=0pt \finalhyphendemerits=0 \par}} Adjust the 2em skip to suit yourself! Mike Piff. Phil Taylor suggests Peter Abbott asked for a dyadic macro which would set the first parameter left-justified and the second parameter right justified. The two parameters should form a single paragraph, and any slop in the paragraph is to be taken up between the two parameters. \def \leftrightpar #1#2% {\setbox 0 = \vbox {\parskip = 0 pt \parindent = 0 pt \parfillskip = 0 pt #1\hfil\penalty0\hbox{}\hfil#2\par }% \unvbox 0 } \let \lr = \leftrightpar \lr {One}{Two} \lr {This is the first parameter, which is quite long}% {and this is the second parameter, which is also quite long} \lr {Now we get to the really tricky bit, which is where the first parameter}% {is so long that there really isn't room for the second parameter to fit} \end Philip Taylor Royal Holloway and Bedford New College. From: jg@uk.ac.oxford.prg Message-Id: <8910121536.AA07332@uk.ac.oxford.prg.client12> Subject: Flush right for text You could try putting the second parameter in a box, then it won't be broken. Or you could try changing all the spaces to ~'s somehow (not at all sure how you'd do it, though) - the advantage of this method is that the spaces will stretch by the same amount as the spaces in the first argument. *-----------------------------------------------------------------------------* | Jeremy Gibbons (jg@ox.prg) Programming Research Group, Oxford University | *-----------------------------------------------------------------------------* *************************************************************************** --------------------------------- Via: UK.AC.POLY-EAST-LONDON; Mon, 9 Oct 89 9:54 BST Date: Mon, 09 Oct 89 09:52:51 GMT From: A42JR@UK.AC.NE-LONDON-POLY Subject: DINA4.STY Thanks to the three correspondents who sent me information about DINA4.STY. It would appear to be simply the DIN (Deutches Industries Norm) A4 paper size. If you have DINA4 specified, first try the usual A4 style option. I had a fairly substantial version sent from JG@UK.oxford.prg which I'm sure can be sent to others who need it. Thanks also to GH@lancaster.physics.vax1 and Erich Neuwirth (A4433DAB@EARN.AWIUNI11) who also sent helpful information. John Rostron A42JR@PEL --------------------------------- Via: UK.AC.POLY-EAST-LONDON; Mon, 9 Oct 89 9:57 BST Date: Mon, 09 Oct 89 09:54:40 GMT From: A42JR@UK.AC.NE-LONDON-POLY Subject: UKTeX users group I recently received an invitation to join the UKTeX Users Group. This message included no information about the benefits of belonging. What are we to get for our money? How will membership of this relate (if at all) to membership of TUG? The proposed group was discussed at the meeting at the LSE and a steering committee elected. Presumably they have come up with some aims and objectives to tempt us into parting with out cash. What are they? *************************************************************************** Editor - At the meeting on Wednesday october 11 here at Aston Malcolm Clark answered this question. Malcolm is the Chairman of the UKTUG and no doubt will respond when he read this. *************************************************************************** --------------------------------- Via: UK.AC.SHEFFIELD.PRIMEA; Mon, 9 Oct 89 12:50 BST Date: Mon, 09 Oct 89 12:50:40 From: Mike Piff Subject: Empty parameters to macros Roger Gawley required a check whether a parameter to a macro is `empty'. Here is the version of \length that returns 0 or 1, but it will not help you; see the four examples included. A macro to check if, after expansion, a parameter was just a sequence of glue, kerns, penalties, empty \hboxes and \vboxes nested arbitrarily deeply ( \hbox{ \hbox{ \penalty200} } ), would, I think, be very time consuming. Martin Ward's solution \catcode`@=11 \def\trouble#1{% \message{ CHECKING ``#1'': }% \checktrouble#1\@mark\end } \def\checktrouble#1#2\end{\ifx#1\@mark \message{EMPTY. }% \else \message{NOT EMPTY. }% \fi } does not work either, as it fails under the same conditions, namely, when a few space tokens, penalties, and other `invisibles' creep in! \documentstyle{book} \makeatletter \newcount\Length \def\length#1{{\global\Length=0 \getlength#1\@@@nd}} \def\ignore#1\@@@nd{} \def\getlength#1{\ifx#1\@@@nd \let\next\relax \else\global\Length=1 \let\next\ignore\fi\next} \def\Space{ } \length{}\showthe\Length \length{ }\showthe\Length \length{ { } }\showthe\Length% you would like these to return 0!! \length{\Space}\showthe\Length \makeatother \begin{document} \end{document} Mike Piff - ---- From: Dr M. J. Piff, Department of Pure Mathematics, University of Sheffield, The Hicks Building, Hounsfield Road, SHEFFIELD S3 7RH, England. Telephone SHEFFIELD(0742) 768555 Extension 4431. JANET address: PM1MJP@UK.AC.SHEF.PA or PM1MJP@UK.AC.SHEF.IBM - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------- Via: UK.AC.CRANFIELD.RMCS; Mon, 9 Oct 89 12:51 BST Date: Mon, 9 OCT 89 12:20:35 BST From: TEX@UK.AC.CRANFIELD.RMCS Subject: Access to the European TeXserver at Aston Sender: JANET"TEX@UK.AC.CRANFIELD.RMCS" Message-Id: <00001212_000698C0.0092C018167573E0$24_2@UK.AC.CRANFIELD.RMCS> Acknowledge-to: RMCS TeX Account Originally-to: TEXHAX Originally-from:TEX "RMCS TeX Account" Mailer: Janet_Mailshr V3.4 (23-May-1989) In TeXhax V89 #89, instructions for accessing the Clarkson repository are reproduced, and read, in part, as under: >4) Keepers of Slave Repositories of the LaTeX Style Collection > >UK users: Aston University maintains a TeX archive covering all aspects of >TeX/LaTeX/Metafont and ancilliary software. UKTeX (like TeXhax) digests are >distributed from Aston. For users with Colour book software `FTP' >access is available, for all users mail access is available. Send enquires in >the first instance to info-tex@uk.ac.aston (via internet use >pabbott@nss.cs.ucl.ac.uk). To save Peter Abbott having to pass on all of these messages to one of the archivists, and for that person (namely myself) having to tell lots of enquirers how to use the mail server at Aston, I'll say it here! Send an e-mail message to TEXSERVER@UK.AC.ASTON.TEX (I leave it to your ingenuity to reach Janet, but some hints appear in the examples) which contains the following (without the leading four spaces): any number of lines of rubbish (such as mailer headers) you wish (or have) to insert --- a line starting with at least three hyphens, rest of line ignored yourname%yoursite@relay help The word HELP (and everything may appear in upper- or lower-case, except of course any case-sensitive usernames) may optionally be followed by various language qualifiers: I cannot quote them all here, but I do know that it supports /ENGLISH, /FRANCAIS, /DEUTSCH, /NEDERLANDS, /NORSK, /DANSK, /ITALIANO, /SWEDISH (don't ask me why this isn't in Swedish). These qualifiers may be written instead as the English name for the language, as synonyms. The subject, if included, is ignored by the TeXserver mailer. Now the only problem is the `yourname%yoursite@relay' --- for users directly connected on Janet, then this reduces to yourname@yoursite, in normal NRS format. JANET ***** The problem is trivial. Note that partial domain routing can be used, so users on the UK.AC part of the network can omit the `uk.ac.' from "yoursite". Example: To: texserver@uk.ac.aston.tex Subject: Rubbish --- rmcs_tex@aston.kirk HELP BITNET/EARN *********** Bitnet/Earn and some Canadian users connect to Janet via BITNET.UKACRL, and for these sites the return relay is EARN-RELAY. So Bitnet user HANS on BITNET.D123456 (I hope that all addresses I use here *are* fictitious) would give his return path as `hans%bitnet.d123456@earn-relay'. Many Bitnet sites now have intelligent mailers which can interpret a Janet address if presented in little-endian format, so you can send to `texserver@tex.aston.ac.uk'; if your mailer cannot handle this, you'll have to specify the routing via UKACRL, as below. The domain names BITNET. and EARN. are interchangeable, so don't worry about this: earn-relay always seems to find the right site eventually! Note however that earn-relay, being an IBM machine, applies some unwanted character tranliterations and is also upset by source lines exceeding 80 characters or periods in column one. Example: To: texserver%uk.ac.aston.tex@UKACRL Subject: Rubbish --- hans%bitnet.d123456@earn-relay HELP /DEUTSCH INTERNET ******** Internet sites have to route back through nsfnet-relay, and although that relay is quite clever, it is preferable to reorder the sitename into big- endian form, so user MARY at AAA.BBB.EDU would specify herself as `mary%edu.bbb.aaa@nsfnet-relay'. If your sitename is unknown to nsfnet-relay, you may need to specify some intermediate node, in the ordering understood by that node. Example: To: texserver%uk.ac.aston.tex%nsfnet-relay.ac.uk@aaa.bbb.edu Subject: Rubbish --- mary%ws1.eng.bbb.edu%edu.bbb.aaa@nsfnet-relay HELP EAN/X.400 ********* Sites connecting to the UK through ean-relay (such as OZ, NZ and X400) route back the same way, so user BRUCE at OZ.BONDAI.BEACH would route back as `bruce%oz.bondai.beach@ean-relay'. Example: To: texserver%uk.ac.aston.tex@munnari.mu.au Subject: Rubbish --- bruce%oz.bondai.beach@ean-relay HELP /STRINE (Sorry, we haven't *really* got a /STRINE version of the help --- you'll just have to have the default!) UUCP **** The only *major* grouping left is the UUCP sites. These have to route out of the UK through UK.AC.UKC. UKC (University of Kent at Canterbury) knows about the world maps for uucp sites, so genereally speaking it will be possible to specify your return path as `name%uucp.yoursite@ukc'. However, if UKC doesn't have your site in its world map, you may need to specify an intermediate relay which *is* known to UKC, thus: `name%yoursite%uucp.othersite@ukc'. If you *must* use the `pling' form, it has to be written enclosed within double quotes, like this: `"othersite!yoursite!name"@ukc'. UUCP sites can usually route using standard little-endian format to UK sites, as in the example; those that can't will send the message to `...!ukc!aston!texserver'. Example: To: texserver@tex.aston.ac.uk Subject: Rubbish --- name%yoursite%uucp.othersite@ukc HELP UUCP sites can also use the earn-relay site, or an internet routing via uunet.uu.net, which both understand the domain uucp and route via gateways in the USA --- don't use this routing if `mcvax' appears within the chain, because the message will then cross the Atlantic twice! Therefore, you could specify `name%uucp.site@earn-relay' or `name%site.uucp%net.uu.uunet@nsfnet-relay'. (You can check whether your site appears in UKC's world map by sending a message to `...!ukc!netdir' with a subject line consisting of the name of your site (without the `uucp.'). You'll be mailed in return a message giving details of your site, or an error message if you are unknown to UKC.) If all else fails ***************** Anybody having difficulty is welcome to contact me: just make your subject line incorporate the words `help wanted' (with one single intervening space) and I'll try to work out your reverse path from whatever magic caballistic symbols the CBS mailer shows me. But before you do that, check the format of your outgoing message: *did* you remember the three hyphens, and the return address on the NEXT line, with HELP on the one after that? Brian {Hamilton Kelly} +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ + JANET: rmcs_tex@uk.ac.aston.kirk + + BITNET: rmcs_tex%uk.ac.aston.kirk@ac.uk + + INTERNET: rmcs_tex%uk.ac.aston.kirk@nsfnet-relay.ac.uk + + Smail: School of Electrical Engineering & Science, Royal Military + + College of Science, Shrivenham, SWINDON SN6 8LA, U.K. + + Phone: Swindon (0793) 785252 (UK), +44-793-785252 (International) + +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ --------------------------------- Via: UK.AC.RUTHERFORD.STARLINK; Mon, 9 Oct 89 13:16 BST Date: Mon, 9 Oct 89 13:15 GMT From: David Terrett Subject: Problems installing DosTeX 2.93a I encountered the same problems as David Sheryn when installing DosTeX but I was able to hack my way round them. The root of the problem seems to be that when the files have been unpacked from the ZIP files they are almost all a few bytes larger than the sizes given in the documentation - hence the problem with getting the files onto the 7th disk. Fortunately the installation program doesn't try to be too clever and it is possible to shuffle the files around and get them onto seven disks. The extra bytes on the end of the files don't matter when unpacking the ARC files except when it comes to the file containing GFTODVI.EXE. The ARC file is created by concatenating MFWARE.1, MFWARE.2 and MFWARE.3 and so you end up with extra bytes in the middle of the ARC file which is of course disastrous. I was able to reconstruct a good copy of the ARC file by coping MFWARE.1 and MFWARE.2 onto a fresh floppy and then editing the directory with debug to set the file sizes their correct values. Having overcome that hurdle every thing works splendidly except for the Epson dvi program which unfortunately appears to have a bug in its calculation of vertical dimensions. Individual characters are the correct size but the vertical spacing is stretched by (I think) the ratio of the Epson's vertical and horizontal resolution. Also the driver constructs the top and bottom halves of the page bit map in separate passes of the DVI page and the two halves overlap by a couple of millimetres. How do I go about reporting (and I hope getting a fix for) this problem; should I simple write to the author or should it be reported by whoever I got my copy from (ie. the TeX archive) ? David Terrett --------------------------------- Via: UK.AC.HERIOT-WATT.CLUSTER; Mon, 9 Oct 89 14:10 BST Date: Mon, 9 Oct 89 14:07 BST From: Sandy Yates Subject: TEX server Can you help me. I am writing my doctoral thesis soon and I wanted to use the LATEX present it. Can you tell me if anyone has produced a "THESIS.STY" that will do this. SUTHESIS.STY and MITTHESIS.STY are not correct for the British theses. Can you help? Thank you, Sandy --------------------------------- Via: UK.AC.HERIOT-WATT.CS; Tue, 10 Oct 89 15:16 BST From: Peter King Message-Id: <4784.8910101333@brahma.cs.hw.ac.uk> Subject: Apple Laserwriter Drivers Date: Tue, 10 Oct 89 14:33:10 BST X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.2 PL11] Yesterday, more from curiosity than need, I ran testpage.tex (which comes with LaTeX) through latex, and then printed it on our Apple Laserwiter Plus. The reuslts surprised me. I used dvialw, dvi2ps, and dvitops to convert the dvi file to Postscript. Each driver positioned the frame in a different position on the page! One can live with that, since all the drivers give one the power to displace the image on the page. More worrying was the fact that the frame which is supposed to be 6.5 inches x 9 inches was, when measured (with a ruler, nothing fancy), 6.58 inches by 8.94 inches. Since all three drivers give the same size frame, it looks as if the bug is in one of three places a) the Postscript interpreter in the LW b) TFM files (seems unlikely since it is presumably rules that are being drawn) c) the mechanics of the LW None of these seems very likely -- has anyone else tried this test? Peter King, Computer Science Department JANET: pjbk@uk.ac.hw.cs Heriot-Watt University ARPA: pjbk@cs.hw.ac.uk 79 Grassmarket, Edinburgh EH1 2HJ or pjbk%cs.hw.ac.uk@ucl-cs Phone: (+44) 31 225 6465 Ext. 555 UUCP: ..!ukc!cs.hw.ac.uk!pjbk --------------------------------- Via: UK.AC.CRANFIELD.RMCS; Tue, 10 Oct 89 16:28 BST Date: Tue, 10 OCT 89 16:28:44 BST From: TEX@UK.AC.CRANFIELD.RMCS Subject: * Announcing Weave V3.0-2 for Vax/VMS * Sender: JANET"TEX@UK.AC.CRANFIELD.RMCS" Message-Id: <000013E4_001A9490.0092C103ED7842A0$11_3@UK.AC.CRANFIELD.RMCS> Acknowledge-to: RMCS TeX Account Originally-to: UKTEX Originally-from:TEX "RMCS TeX Account" Mailer: Janet_Mailshr V3.4 (23-May-1989) The directory [TEX-ARCHIVE.SRC.TEXWARE] now contains new versions of WEAVE.WEB and WEAVE.VMS-CH. The WEB is the latest V3 from Knuth; the change file, as well as porting this to VMS corrects two bugs in Weave: 1) When generating the .TEX output, Weave wraps lines that exceed 80 characters: however, it makes no attempt to place a % in front of the continuation line when the previous line formed a comment in the TeX part of the WEB. 2) A number of users have reported that multiple invocations of WEB module within another lead to multiple identical cross-references to that module in the trailer of the woven output for the referenced module, and in the index. This version of the change file reduces these to a single cross-reference. N.B. This behaviour is regarded as a feature rather than a bug, and some users may find it useful to have these multiple cross-references. It would be better if the woven output said: ``This module is used in section 20 (3 times).'' rather than: ``This module is used in section 20, 20 and 20.'' but I haven't yet worked out how to do that! Users who wish to preserve the original behaviour can remove the relevant change from the change file: the latter is annotated to facilitate location of this change. What to do ********** Transfer (using FTP or the TeXserver mailer) the file [TEX-ARCHIVE.SRC.TEXWARE]00README.TXT Brian {Hamilton Kelly} +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ + JANET: tex@uk.ac.cranfield.rmcs + + BITNET: tex%uk.ac.cranfield.rmcs@ac.uk + + INTERNET: tex%uk.ac.cranfield.rmcs@nsfnet-relay.ac.uk + + Smail: School of Electrical Engineering & Science, Royal Military + + College of Science, Shrivenham, SWINDON SN6 8LA, U.K. + + Phone: Swindon (0793) 785252 (UK), +44-793-785252 (International) + +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ --------------------------------- Via: UK.AC.CRANFIELD.RMCS; Tue, 10 Oct 89 16:28 BST Date: Tue, 10 OCT 89 16:22:28 BST From: TEX@UK.AC.CRANFIELD.RMCS Subject: * Announcing TeX V2.991-10 for Vax/VMS * Sender: JANET"TEX@UK.AC.CRANFIELD.RMCS" Message-Id: <000013E4_001B7D38.0092C1030D42CCA0$11_1@UK.AC.CRANFIELD.RMCS> Acknowledge-to: RMCS TeX Account Originally-to: UKTEX Originally-from:TEX "RMCS TeX Account" Mailer: Janet_Mailshr V3.4 (23-May-1989) I have transferred a number of files to [TEX-ARCHIVE.SRC.TEX.VMS] which: 1) Provide an enhanced editor interface to TeX under VMS, including support for using the Language-sensitive Editor's (LSEdit's) REVIEW mode and also permit use of any editing system when TeX reports an error. 2) Facilitate the generation of executables and format files for all TeXware, through use of DEC's Module Management System (MMS). A longer TeXable note describing this system is in course of preparation for publication in TUGboat; this file will be added to the directory when it is ready. User's without MMS (even those who don't know how to use it) can still peruse the associated DESCRIP.MMS to glean hints on how to generate the executables and format files. It would not be too difficult to adapt this description file into a Makefile.MAK for use with a VMS implementation of MAKE. What to do ********** Transfer, using FTP or the TeXserver mailer, the files: [TEX-ARCHIVE.SRC.TEX]00README.TXT and [TEX-ARCHIVE.SRC.TEX.VMS]00README.TXT Brian {Hamilton Kelly} +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ + JANET: tex@uk.ac.cranfield.rmcs + + BITNET: tex%uk.ac.cranfield.rmcs@ac.uk + + INTERNET: tex%uk.ac.cranfield.rmcs@nsfnet-relay.ac.uk + + Smail: School of Electrical Engineering & Science, Royal Military + + College of Science, Shrivenham, SWINDON SN6 8LA, U.K. + + Phone: Swindon (0793) 785252 (UK), +44-793-785252 (International) + +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ --------------------------------- Via: UK.AC.CRANFIELD.RMCS; Tue, 10 Oct 89 16:29 BST Date: Tue, 10 OCT 89 16:26:46 BST From: TEX@UK.AC.CRANFIELD.RMCS Subject: * Announcing Tangle V3 for Vax/VMS * Sender: JANET"TEX@UK.AC.CRANFIELD.RMCS" Message-Id: <000013E4_001A9898.0092C103A7691460$11_2@UK.AC.CRANFIELD.RMCS> Acknowledge-to: RMCS TeX Account Originally-to: UKTEX Originally-from:TEX "RMCS TeX Account" Mailer: Janet_Mailshr V3.4 (23-May-1989) The directory [TEX-ARCHIVE.SRC.TEXWARE] now contains new versions of TANGLE.WEB and TANGLE.VMS-CH for V3 of Tangle. Please note that it will be necessary to use this version of Tangle to generate the new TeX V2.991-10 mentioned in another note. A pre-tangled TANGLE.PAS and the .OBJ file derived from it are also included. What to do ********** Transfer (using FTP or the TeXserver mailer) the file [TEX-ARCHIVE.SRC.TEXWARE]00README.TXT Brian {Hamilton Kelly} +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ + JANET: tex@uk.ac.cranfield.rmcs + + BITNET: tex%uk.ac.cranfield.rmcs@ac.uk + + INTERNET: tex%uk.ac.cranfield.rmcs@nsfnet-relay.ac.uk + + Smail: School of Electrical Engineering & Science, Royal Military + + College of Science, Shrivenham, SWINDON SN6 8LA, U.K. + + Phone: Swindon (0793) 785252 (UK), +44-793-785252 (International) + +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ --------------------------------- Via: UK.AC.POLY-EAST-LONDON; Tue, 10 Oct 89 16:37 BST Date: Tue, 10 Oct 89 16:35:42 GMT From: A42JR@UK.AC.NE-LONDON-POLY Subject: DviToPS on Primes Has anyone implemented DviToPS on Prime computers? On our Prime system the C compiler does not appear to support three of the required functions. I'm sure that I could emulate them if necessary, but I don't want to reinvent the wheel. --------------------------------- Via: UK.AC.QUEENS-BELFAST.CENTRE.VAX1; Tue, 10 Oct 89 21:58 BST Date: Tue, 10 OCT 89 21:51:55 BST From: EFIA4580@UK.AC.QUEENS-BELFAST.CENTRE.VAX1 Stephen Gilmore Department of Computer Science The Queen's University of Belfast Belfast BT7 1NN Northern Ireland 10-OCT-1989 Dear VAX/VMS and LN03+ users, I have recently moved to a new VAX/VMS installation which - unthinkably - does not have TeX and LaTeX. As an interim measure before obtaining TeX, I have been transferring LN3 files produced by the quite excellent RMCS DVItoLN03 to my new installation for printing on the LN03+. Sadly, the LN3 files are scrambled when they are printed on the local LN03+. Can anyone help with a public domain version of a command file which allows LN3 files to be printed on the LN03+. It is possibly something as simple as deciding on the qualifiers to the VMS PRINT command but then again, perhaps not. Thanks, Stephen Gilmore --------------------------------- Via: UK.AC.EDINBURGH.EMAS-A; Wed, 11 Oct 89 15:28 GMT Date: 11 Oct 89 15:30:48 bst From: G.Toal Subject: sb26tex - first impressions favourable Message-ID: <11 Oct 89 15:30:48 bst 050763@EMAS-A> I was pleased to find that sb26tex corrected the two main criticisms I had against sb08tex -- it now has environmental variables for its various paths, and it swaps memory to (ram)disk. It now seems like a usable alternative to pctex, which has to be a good thing. As well as actually being able to run documents which it could not before, its performance has improved dramatically: it ran a document which took pctex 80 seconds in a marginally better 70 seconds. This is a great improvement over all other pd tex's for domestos which take two to three times longer. In brief, it looks good, it feels good, and I for one shall now be recommending it to people wanting a quality implementation of tex for the pc. That name again: sb26tex - it is in the aston archive. Graham. --------------------------------- Via: UK.AC.STIRLING.COMPSCI; Wed, 11 Oct 89 15:46 BST Received: by uk.ac.stir.cs id AA22838; 11 Oct 89 15:43:30 BST (Wed) Received: by uk.ac.stir.cs.crown id AA13079; 11 Oct 89 15:42:47 BST (Wed) Date: 11 Oct 89 15:42:47 BST (Wed) Message-Id: <8910111542.AA13079@uk.ac.stir.cs.crown> X-Mailer: Ag [2.3-A] (14/08/89--15:00) From: David Budgen Subject: TeX on the Atari ST - some experiences - ------- We recently obtained the version of TeX/LaTeX for the Atari ST that is distributed (on four disks) from South West Software Library. I thought that others might like to know of our experiences so far. I put this up on a 1040ST with two disk drives, and there were no problems with installation. I could run LaTeX, and preview the results without more than occasional minor references to the documentation. Some particular points: * LaTeX is slow to load from a floppy disk (surprised?), but once loaded it rattles through the .tex file at a good rate (I suppose there is a 68000 in the thing). * The previewer program is quite neat, and the quality of the display is adequate for proof reading, although I wouldn't care to read too large a document in this way. It is certainly fast enough once initialised. * I can't comment on the printer drivers supplied, as these were for a 9-pin Epson, and have interesting effects on the 24-pin model available to me. * I have tried uploading the resulting .dvi files on to our UNIX box via Kermit, but our dvips program sneered at them as lacking in some way - given the ease of copying the source file anyway, it isn't a problem that I intend to pursue very far. I suspect that one could manage with a single double-sided disk drive, but it would require some careful selection of disk contents. David Budgen --------------------------------- Via: UK.AC.OXFORD.VAX; Wed, 11 Oct 89 16:33 BST Date: Wed, 11 Oct 89 16:31 BST From: Harry Fearnley Subject: Thesis styles, Latex ... In response to recent postings by Dave lindsey (Aberdeen) and David Rhead (Nottingham) : Below is a message that I received recently about the BLUTEX-L list. Regards, Harry ================================================================================ Subj: BluTeX History Date: Fri, 20 Jan 89 23:40:00 CST Reply-To: BluTeX-L From: J E PITTMAN Subject: BluTeX History Let me start this year's discussions with a review of the history of BluTeX up to this point. The idea behind BluTeX started somewhere around April, 1988. At that time I was quite new to the TeX community and was very impressed with the item-by-item quality of TeX output, yet appalled by the difficulty involved in producing a high quality document. In 1982-83, Blair Brenner, one of my predecessors in the User Services Group, conceived and developed Blueline SCRIPT. Blueline is now one of our high demand packages, though I am pleased to say that the demand has fallen considerably since the introduction of TeX and now BluTeX to the Texas A&M campus. I approached Roger Sorrells, the manager of the User Services Group, with the idea of doing in TeX what Blair Brenner had done in SCRIPT six years ago. Roger was hesitant to authorize the project because of the expense of Blueline, which took approximately a year to develop and document. We compromised on a smaller project, which was the acquisition and review of the available macro packages. The best thesis package I was able to find was the LaTeX Thesis, which had been generated by a series of students working under the direction of Drs. Norman Naugle (Mathematics) and Pierce Cantrell (Electrical Engineering). After reviewing their code and documentation, I decided that, first, the lack of programmer's documention for LaTeX was crippling, and, second, that they had failed to design for the entire university. The Texas A&M Thesis Manual states that a thesis should follow the style and format of a major journal in the student's field. This requirement creates a nightmare of complexity for format designers, to such an extent that the LaTeX Thesis' designers were attempting to introduce a generic format that would be accepted by all departments. Towards the end of May, the requirements for BluTeX were fairly well defined: 1. It should follow the Thesis Manual without question or argument. 2. It would be written in plain TeX, with provisions for use with AmSTeX. 3. It should be built heavily upon Blueline SCRIPT, with ideas borrowed from the LaTeX Thesis, LaTeX, and TeXhax articles. 4. It should be designed under the principles of structured programming, with the realization that, as a student, I will not be maintaining it forever. 5. It should be targeted for colleges outside of Science and Engineering, with the belief that a software package that can appeal to students that do not normally use computers would also appeal to students that do, though the converse is frequently false. My initial estimate was 1,000 lines of code and 3 months labor, which Roger agreed to with some reluctance. About a month and a half later, I released BluTeX, version 1.0, which consisted of about 1,000 lines of TeX code. Incidentally, the name ``BluTeX'' stems from a contraction of Blueline TeX. About five students attended my short course on BluTeX that summer and started using it for their work. The consensus opinion that I received was that I had solved the majority of their problems but that there was room for improvement. I agreed, gathered their suggestions, and spent the rest of the summer working on version 2.0. In mid-September, I released version 2.0. The line counts for the code and the manual were well over 2,000 apiece and the effort involved in the manual led me to the conclusion that lines of manual were as expensive as lines of code. Version 2.0 was highly successful. Over the course of the fall semester, it evolved upwards to version 2.09. Most of the changes were minor bug patches, addition of internal documentation to the code, and minor improvements. Its user community grew rapidly, though I do not have numerical statistics. Towards the end of the fall semester, I established this discussion list for the following purposes: 1. Provide a forum for a discussion entitled ``What does a thesis look like?'' The purpose of this discussion is to, hopefully, determine what elements are common to all thesis formats and the bounds within which formats vary. 2. Provide a forum for national (and international) discussions about the problem of typesetting a thesis in TeX. 3. Provide a forum to discuss ideas, suggestions, and complaints about BluTeX. 4. Provide a method for announcing changes to the code and distribution of same. There are over 200 computers on campus, excluding micros and workstations, and upwards of half of them have TeX. The discussion list stalled in December due to the service outage on TeXhax which slowed the announcement of the list, so it is effectively beginning now. There were also some delays in getting the code on-line. During the Christmas break, I worked on version 2.1 -- which was installed about a week ago. It includes significant improvements in the output routine, table and figure management techniques, and the reference citation macros. It undoubtably includes a new set of bugs, of which, three have been found and corrected already. That's the history through the end of 1988 plus early January, 1989. My next major article will describe future directions and plans, after that will be the articles describing Texas A&M's thesis format. J E Pittman User Services Group Computing Services Center Texas A&M University --------------------------------- Via: UK.AC.HERIOT-WATT.CLUSTER; Thu, 12 Oct 89 8:33 BST Date: Thu, 12 Oct 89 8:30 BST From: Sandy Yates Subject: THESIS.STY complying to BS4821:1972 Texserver, Can you tell me if there is a LATEX style file that complies to the British thesis (British Standard 4821: 1972) availible. SUTHESIS.STY and MITTHESIS.STY are not correct. Thank you Sandy --------------------------------- Via: UK.AC.LEICESTER.VAX; Fri, 13 Oct 89 8:47 BST Date: Fri, 13 OCT 89 08:43:03 BST From: NOC_X@UK.AC.LEICESTER Is there software which can be run on VAX or RML 'Nimbus' to drive a QUME Crystal Print 'Publisher' printer from DVI files? Via: UK.AC.LEICESTER.VAX; Fri, 13 Oct 89 8:48 BST Date: Fri, 13 OCT 89 08:45:36 BST From: NOC_X@UK.AC.LEICESTER Is there software for implementing TeX on RML 'Nimbus' (or PC compatible) machines? --------------------------------- !! !! Files of interest !! [tex-archive]000aston.readme [tex-archive]000directory.list !! [tex-archive]000directory_dates.list [tex-archive]000directory.size !! [tex-archive]000last30days.files !! !! Editor - I have a tape labelled TeX 2.99 LaTeX 2.09 Metafont 1.7 !! Unix 4.2/3BSD & System V. Tar 1600 bpi blocked 20 1 file dated !! 25 July 1989 (from washington.edu). !! !! FTP access site uk.ac.aston.tex !! username public !! password public !! !! 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